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Offline Geoff-E

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Re: Mystery Trophy - Scottish . But what and who?
« Reply #72 on: Wednesday 09 September 15 08:45 BST (UK) »
It appears that clay shooting may not have emerged as a sport until the 1920s.

http://www.gunclub.co.uk/modules/mastop_publish/?tac=History_of_Clay_Pigeon_Shooting
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Re: Mystery Trophy - Scottish . But what and who?
« Reply #73 on: Wednesday 09 September 15 09:09 BST (UK) »
Sometimes things are gifted to us by the widow/ers of old friends. 

It could, annoyingly, be plausible that the cup was won by an ancestor's best friend and neighbour, maybe even a lifelong school chum - and they'd often go together to a few clubs/events and when they died the elderly widow said "Here, take this, XX loved the times that you spent together going out and about so I know he'd have liked you to have had it".

Yes StanleysChesterton that could very well be the case. I've certainly not turned up a family connection to the name on the trophy.  My Greatgrandpa was a miner all his life, his sons in their younger days were miners too - eventually factory workers. His son-in-law (my grandpa) was a mill worker. I find it hard, knowing their background, to comprehend that they were involved or knew someone who was involved in rifle shooting :)
Thanks for your thoughts,
Looby.

ps. Read your missing granddad thread , very intriguing ;D

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Re: Mystery Trophy - Scottish . But what and who?
« Reply #74 on: Wednesday 09 September 15 09:14 BST (UK) »
It appears that clay shooting may not have emerged as a sport until the 1920s.

http://www.gunclub.co.uk/modules/mastop_publish/?tac=History_of_Clay_Pigeon_Shooting

Thank you Geoff. I 'feel' the trophy is slightly older than that (although I could be wrong ::) ) so this info could rule clay shooting out.

Looby :)

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Re: Mystery Trophy - Scottish . But what and who?
« Reply #75 on: Wednesday 09 September 15 19:38 BST (UK) »
A.R.M.C.

I wondered if the M.C. stood for Memorial Cup with the A.R. Being someone's name?
Saying that, I have had a quick look on the internet but haven't been able to find anything!
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Re: Mystery Trophy - Scottish . But what and who?
« Reply #76 on: Wednesday 09 September 15 21:44 BST (UK) »
Good evening,

A.R.M.C.

I wondered if the M.C. stood for Memorial Cup with the A.R. Being someone's name?
Saying that, I have had a quick look on the internet but haven't been able to find anything!
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Stupid of me not to make the connection before. Not someone but something. The 93rd were the Argylshire regt.

Argylshire Regiment Memorial Cup

So back to the regimental museum track again and see what they say as well.

Target rifle shooting was very much a working mans sport as well as the better off. Guns were cheap and so was ammunition in those days. It was encouraged by Lord Roberts and others like him to give us a strong background of first class shots for the military if another war came along after SA. Which indeed it did in the form of WW1.

John915

Sorry, Been a long day driving around Oxfordshire. Argyles were the 91st, 93rd were the Sutherlands. The two were amalgamated in 1881.

But members of both the old regts would most likely shoot for the cup annually hence "late 93rd".
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Re: Mystery Trophy - Scottish . But what and who?
« Reply #77 on: Wednesday 09 September 15 23:06 BST (UK) »
Well done Chrissie and John - there's a chance we may find the mystery owner of the mystery trophy after all!

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Re: Mystery Trophy - Scottish . But what and who?
« Reply #78 on: Sunday 13 September 15 12:47 BST (UK) »
Hello folks and thanks to the latest contributors for their input . I don't know why but I'd missed the email alert advising me of more posts :-[
Memorial Cup make sense to me too , ChrissieL :) The A and R could stand for a person's name or A could stand for Ayrshire or Argyllshire  :-\ 
Unfortunately due to a family emergency I may be off browsing RC for sometime - but if something turns up I'll be sure to post the results.

Many many thanks to everyone who has shown interest in my mystery trophy.

Looby :)