Missing Tudors

[Sandyq]

My grandmother  Lily Tudor was born on 14th March 1883 at Curzon St, Aston, B.Ham
Her father was William Tudor born 1858 and her mother Elizabeth Clayton (they married in 1876)

I could not find the family in the 1891 census on Ancestry or Find my past - I paid a researcher
for a report of all Tudors in BHam in 1891 and my family are there -researcher quotes 12/2383
Lily has been misspelt as Lilly -she is shown with seven siblings, and her parents.
I still cannot find them via the online sites -is there anyway knowing the RG/Fiche/Folio numbers can help in this search?
Also in 1881 William and Elizabeth are shown with their sons Willm. 2 and Arthur 2 days -but I can't find a record of an Arthur Tudor either birth or death, but he isn't with his parents in 1891- can anyone offer any advice please

[rosie99]

FindMyPast has them as Ludw

RG12/2383
f8 page 10

Ancestry has them as Ludes

[LizzieL]

Ancestry has them as Ludes

piece 2383, folio 8, page 10

[Sandyq]

Thank you both so much -I  still don't know how you found them though, and it would be useful to know in case something similar occurs again

[rosie99]

On FindMyPast I selected 1891 census and put Lilly in the name and 2383 in the piece number and just looked at the selection of Lilly's they provided.  There were only 15 in total (I had not put in an age) and that surname looked most likely    Then I checked the image

Rosie

[LizzieL]

On Ancestry I put in Lilly (mispelt as you said), then year of birth +/- 1, parents names and living in Birmingham. Not many came up.

[Sandyq]

That's really useful thank you.
Any suggestions on Arthur ?

[rosie99]

Do you have a date of birth for their daughter Rose who is age 10 in 1891.   

I was wondering if the entry for Arthur is wrong and should read Rose.  There was a birth for a Rose Elizabeth registered June qtr 1881 which is where you would expect to find Arthurs birth registration.

 Birth June qtr 1881   
 Rose Elizabeth Tudor
 Birmingham    6d   110

Death Dec qtr 1907 
Rose Elizabeth Tudor age    26   
Birmingham    6d   124

[Sandyq]

Hi Rosie,

I've got birth certificates for most of the siblings  but not Rose, however she was definitely Rose Elizabeth, I couldn't understand how Arthur could be 2 days old in April and then another baby followed quickly !
I've found many spelling mistakes etc but can't understand how a baby girl can be listed as a male called Arthur! , but nothing else makes sense.
I suppose I need to send for birth cert. and if date of birth is 1st April your scenario seems likely.
Thanks very much for your involvement
Sandra