Ancestry - Public Tree Members being trawled by Private Tree Members

[jess5athome]

Hi 100%Gog, There will always be givers and takers in this world and as my Grandmother used to say "There's nowt as queer as Folk", I fully sympathise with you as it happens all to often.

To me there is no excuse for bad manners, they cost nothing, I am in the "Private" tree camp but I always respond to requests for information and help where I can, I have in the past seen a connection on Ancestry with a photograph or two and have always sent a message to the tree owner asking for permission to have a copy but only after I have explained my connection to them and offered them the chance to view my tree or ask for any information they may need.

On another note, I asked a member if they were connected to my tree as they added a record to theirs and they were indeed part of my family all be it to my Great aunts side, I offered the person copy's of photographs and certs that I had but have heard absolutely nothing back and I know they have been logged onto Ancestry on a regular basis since

Like I said "Nowt as Queer as Folk" 

Frank.

[q98]

The practice of "purloining" research data, photographs, documentation, etc; irks me immensely.  Most, not all, family historians are not (errr, how do I put this?) youngsters and were raised with "Please" and "Thank You".

Is it too sweeping a statement to state common courtesy appears to fly out the window when they locate data they did not have?

I have, in my possession, parchment documentation which will never be put on the web. I am in the process of making frames to house and protect them.

q98
Fremantle
Western Australia

[mike175]

I usually avoid publishing online anything I don't want the World to see because, whatever the legal position, anything displayed on the Web is effectively in the public domain, available for anyone to download, copy and share.

What I found more annoying was when I shared a copy of a family document with an individual directly, only to find it included on several Ancestry public trees a few months later

I'm sure it was just thoughtlessness in this case, but I would never publish someone else's documents without asking their permission first.

Mike.

[groom]

What I found more annoying was when I shared a copy of a family document with an individual directly, only to find it included on several Ancestry public trees a few months later

I think that is the main problem, once you've shared something, you then have no control over it especally if it is then put on to a public tree. If there is something you don't want made public, I'm afraid the only option is not to share it at all.

[pinefamily]

I think someone raised this earlier in this thread, but is it true that once you upload information to Ancestry it becomes their intellectual property?

[sandiep]

perhaps this will answer your question


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[pinefamily]

So that's a yes then (?).
I hate legal jargon. 

[findem]

Having read the posts on this topic both on RootsChat and other sites, I'm glad I made the decision to not put a tree on Ancestry, I do have a partial tree on GenesReunited which will give anyone I allow to view it an idea of my lines.

I have had a very poor response from both Public and Private Tree owners on Ancestry, the six messages I sent over the last two months remain unanswered, when I sent the messages the tree owners had all been on Ancestry within the previous three months.  With one of them it's a shame she didn't reply because she has the wrong husband of one of my female ancestors, I would have gladly helped her.  I do know my version is correct because I have the couple's marriage certificate plus the certificate for one of their children, who is also my ancestor, it gives of course parent names and the mother's maiden name. 

[q98]

Hi findem
By not answering, the error/s compound/s or the brick wall is hit - THEIR loss, NO sympathy!

q98