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Re: Iasbella Foxton Robert Corner
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 20 September 15 21:19 BST (UK) »
Anyone found Rose Ann's birth (or death?)

A possibility for her in Hull, 1901:
Rose A Hawkesley 17    Daughter b Hull, Yorkshire
Parents: John 58 & Fanny 52,
Siblings: Beatrice E 15, Charles H 11, Arthur 9

Birth: Rosanna Hawksley, 1884, Hull, Jan-Mar, 9d/295
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Iasbella Foxton Robert Corner
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 20 September 15 21:23 BST (UK) »
Possible death ?

Rosaline Corner, 1927, Middlesbrough, Jan-Mar, 9d/930 age 41   :-\
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Iasbella Foxton Robert Corner
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 20 September 15 23:00 BST (UK) »
It looks like Robert Jr was placed in an orphanage:

Whitby Gazette 06 December 1884
The following DONATIONS have been received towards the relief of the widow of Robert Peacock who was lost in the fishing boat Flying Spray, in the storm off Whitby, on Saturday, 27th September,  1884:-
(list of donations totalling £25 3s)

And towards the expense of placing Robert Corner, the only child of Robert Corner, in the Hull Orphan Home
(list of donations totalling £10 16s 6d)
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Iasbella Foxton Robert Corner
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 20 September 15 23:20 BST (UK) »
the Isabella Corner who married Alfred Showler was the daughter of another Robert Corner, there's a marriage notice in the online newspapers.

I can't find a corresponding marriage, but this family has a couple of points that match, writing on the census not very clear
1891 28 High Dean St, Middlesbrough RG12/4009 folio 38 pg 27
Thomas Tunley head mar 34 engine driver b.Briley Hill, Staffs
Isabel wife 34 b Whitby, Yorks
Robert son 14 b. West Hartlepool, Durham
Lily dau 4 b. Middlesbrough
Thomas son 1 b. Skinygrove

death reg Thomas Tunley 34 june qtr 1893 Middlesbro vol 9d pg 349

1901 census Lily Tunley is in Stokesley, where the Foxton family are in some census years. Her birth cert would confirm mother's maiden name
Lily Tunley Middlesbro sept qtr 1887 vol 9d pg 522

There's a possible marriage june qtr 1899 for Isabella Corner to William Henry Smith Middlesbro vol 9d pg 1065 (the other 2 people on the page are together on the 1901 census) & then vaguely possible census
1901 21 Hutchinson St, Middlesbro RG13/4577 folio 107 pg 13
W H Smith head mar 51 mason's labourer b. Northampton
Isabella wife 48 b. Middlesbro
Chas son 11 b. Skiningrove
Thos son 10 b. Middlesbro
Gertie dau 8 b. Guisbrough
Thos W son mar 28 ironworker b. Middlesbro
Gib W grandson 7 b. Middlesbro
Thos John grandson 3 b. Middlesbro

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: Iasbella Foxton Robert Corner
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 20 September 15 23:51 BST (UK) »
Hi All thanks for the reply's!

I did think she probably would of got married again, i'm unsure to as why her son would of been put in a home but then again some of her own siblings seemed to disappear when there mother died and they weren't with there father or any of the older siblings. I'm still unsure if Isabella's parents even married as no one has ever been able to find a DOB for her mother we're still not 100% sure what her maiden name is and yet we have certificates for some of the children and wedding certs where she is mentioned and her name differs!!

The family don't appear on any census till 1871 so there very census shy indeed yet they appear handfulls of times in the papers for wrong doings.
Rogers-Buckinghamshire
Pitwell- Buckinghamshire
Fisher- Middlesbrough
Robinson-Middlesbrough
Foxton - Yorkshire
Carruthers - Scotland
Gibson - Northumberland

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Re: Iasbella Foxton Robert Corner
« Reply #14 on: Monday 21 September 15 01:19 BST (UK) »
Great work Osprey - the Isabel[la] with Thomas Tunley looks really good, and perhaps this is why there is no marriage to be found:

Daily Gazette for Middlesbrough 29 February 1884
This (Friday) morning at the Middlesbrough Police Court, before Mr C.J. Coleman (Stipendiary), Thomas Tunley was sent to gaol for a month with hard labour for deserting his wife and family and leaving them chargeable to the Middlesbrough Union.
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Iasbella Foxton Robert Corner
« Reply #15 on: Monday 21 September 15 01:36 BST (UK) »
I can't seem to find the census you mentions with Lily on where she's in Stokesley? Can you tell me what Foxton's appear on there and maybe i could see if they fit in with mine
Rogers-Buckinghamshire
Pitwell- Buckinghamshire
Fisher- Middlesbrough
Robinson-Middlesbrough
Foxton - Yorkshire
Carruthers - Scotland
Gibson - Northumberland

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Re: Iasbella Foxton Robert Corner
« Reply #16 on: Monday 21 September 15 08:12 BST (UK) »
Anyone found Rose Ann's birth (or death?)

A possibility for her in Hull, 1901:
Rose A Hawkesley 17    Daughter b Hull, Yorkshire
Parents: John 58 & Fanny 52,
Siblings: Beatrice E 15, Charles H 11, Arthur 9

Birth: Rosanna Hawksley, 1884, Hull, Jan-Mar, 9d/295

There is a baptism which does not match these entries  :-\
Born 5 April 1889 and baptised on the 17th -Rose Ann Hawksby dtr of John & Sarah Ann (Dickinson) of 45 Station Street, Middlesbrough
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Re: Iasbella Foxton Robert Corner
« Reply #17 on: Monday 21 September 15 10:14 BST (UK) »
There's a marriage registered march qtr 1880 Middlesbro vol 9d pg 739 for Thomas Tunley which could account for the deserted wife. He married Harriet North & they're living with his parents in 1881. There's a death reg for Harriet Tunley aged 28 march qtr 1889 vol 9d pg 385.

1901 census for Lily
Hall Barns, Stokesley RG13/4593 folio 69 pg 9
Henry Dickens head mar 33 farmer b. Middleton on Leven
Alice Ann wife 38 b. Ellerbeck
Lillian Tunley 14 general servant b. Middlesbro
There is no Lillian Tunley registered, just the Lily from 1887.

She appears twice on the 1891 census, once with Isabella & once as Lily Tonley visiting a household that also has Margaret Foxton aged 21 b. Stokesley RG12/4002 folio 89 pg 38

1871 census West Row, Stokesley RG10/4859 folio 109 pg 19
William Foxton head mar 48 cartman b. Staithes
Elizabeth wife 38 b. Glasgow
William son 18 b. Staithes
John son 16 b. Stokesley
Isabella 13 b. Whitby
Mary A dau 11 b. Stokesley
Jane dau 8 b. Whitby
George son 6 b. Stokesley
Elizabeth dau 4 b. Stokesley
Joseph son 2 b. Stokesley
Margaret dau 3wks b. Stokesley

The Gertie Smith from the 1901 census appears to have been registered as
birth Gertrude Tunley march qtr 1893 Middlesbro vol 9d pg 514
death Gertrude Tunley 11 june qtr 1904 Middlesbro vol 9d pg 339

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb