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Re: Captain John Hood, Ship "Brothers" London-Selby-York (possibly from Scarborough)
« Reply #36 on: Friday 12 August 16 03:37 BST (UK) »
It needs a some researching to confirm or some good indications as Gibson ancestry as well as Hood's but if its the right place and parents then things will start fitting together if the same approach intense research as that done already around Selby is used. George & Sarah Hood need not have been buried on Tynemouth either.



On dates fitting, parents ages fitting and locations scenario in its most basic form picture

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In ratio of normal generation of families father to son ages seems right and there is nothing to say George Hood d 1845 Selby father was a mariner either. ( The John Hood b 1737 mariner of Selby always seems far too old to be George's dad anyway)

John Hood age 23 X Elizabeth Gibson age 21 marriage of intent bond allegation Dec 15th 1779 in Newcastle

Innkeepers, Maltsters, Brewers  & Wood Keg/barrel makers all fit together at the back of a pub/inn them days.


George Hood son of John Hood 1st October 1786 Gateshead

Obscure George Hood suddenly shows up from nowhere or anywhere with no known history in Selby & takes over a bankrupt Cooper business of Richard Gibson 1811/12  Selby

George Hood age 28 (b 1787 age given by George himself ) x Sarah Russel married in Selby 1815


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Re: Captain John Hood, Ship "Brothers" London-Selby-York (possibly from Scarborough)
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 18 August 16 10:56 BST (UK) »
Hello All

Of possible interest to family history researchers from TNA, Kew £0.00 (free) to download (takes about half an hour and 405Mb Pdf ), if the father might be in the Navy?

Some quick scribble notes of HOODS extracted from ADM 142/6 REGISTERS OF WILLS, surname H (see images, as some contain more information, than my notes below).

"No." given is the number in Ledger on that Pdf page number, (separate column for any Ship Number)

Pdf p.7
No. 58 Alex’r Hood, Ship last from "Culloden", 17 October 1787, in favour of Ann Hood, Plym Dock, Wife

Pdf p.9
No. 89 John Hood, Ship last from "Inspector", 13 August 1785, London, in favour of John Hood, Father, Witnessed by Wm Blair Weacock [or possibly Wedcock?]

To Pdf p.55 (No. 600) but seem to begin Surname “Ha”.

So fast search to Surnames beginning “Ho” again, but found on …

Pdf p.74
No. 885 Sam’l Hood entered by mistake, Thos Baker 3 Oct 1818, in favour of Wm Baker 17 Napan St, Midd’ex Hospl, Brother

“Ho” from Pdf page 127

Pdf p.131
No. 73 Hugh Hood, Ship last from "Fox", 24 April 1794, Jane Hood, Carrickfergus, Wife

Pdf p.136
No. 163 George Hood, ship last from “Union” present residence Sick Quarters Sheerness 16 September 1795, in whose favour Peter Parker [or Barker? or Birker?] of the Union, Executor “friend” Surgeon and Agent. [Will] Sent to Doctors Commons 24 March 1797 Cresswell.  Returned 24 April 1797. “Check issued” 19 May 1797. To “Cashier”

[Note: when this George Hood died, might possibly buried in the Sheerness area?]

No. 165 Jno Hood, ship last from “Apollo” on board, 9 August 1795, Mary Hood, Southwark, Wife, the Captain and Clerk witnessed the Will.

Pdf p.137
No. 177 John Hood, Ship last from Bellerophon, 7th Oct 1796, Jane Hood, Derby, Wife.

No. 179 Joshua Hood, Ship’s Name “Commerce & Marseills” 9 November 1795 John Hood, Moshields, Brother [actually looks like Moshields, (perhaps meant NoShields abb’n., for North Shields?)]

Pdf p.140
No. 223 Richard Hood alias Richard Griffiths, ship last from Hannibal, on board, 28 April 1781, in favour of Sam’l Hood of Portsm’ and Harriott Griffiths of London, Grandfather and Sister

Pdf p.143
No. 287 David Hood, Ship last from “Captain” 26 May 1805, Eliz’th Hood, Cornwall, Wife

Pdf p.144
No. 301 John Hood, Ship last from “Renown” 20 Nov 1800, in favour of Jane Hill, Plymouth, Sister

Pdf p.145
No. 314 Hen’y Henry Hood, Ship last from “Bellona”, Haslar Hos: 23 April 1801, In whose favour Eliz Sergeant, Cha’s Fowler Ex’r, London, Witnessed by Gov: & Agent 23 Dec, Check Issued 1 Jan’y 1803, Ex’r duplicate 4197 by order of A.I. [or A.J.] 3 March 15

[Seems to have reference to an Order referring to a duplicate 4197 of 3 March 1815. This was the year my George Hood of Selby got married?]

Pdf p.147
No. 387 Thos Hood, Ship “Medusa” 12 April 1805, In favour of Eliz Watson of Glassell Kermorr, Mother

[typing ‘Glassell Kermoor’ into a search engine, gives Glassel Post Office, Glassel (AB31), Glassel Aberdeenshire and Glassel Banchory. Also words appear amongst addresses including road names in Lancashire and Chorley, Lancs]

No. 393 Jno Holland, “Agam”[?] 2 October 1805, in favour of Jas HOOD, Portsea, Sister

Pdf p.149
No. 325 John Hood “Defiance”, 12 May 1801, in favour of Fra’s Myers, Residence Defence, Friend, Check issued 11 November 1801 Ex’r
 
No. 328 John Hood, Ship last from “Defiance” on board, 12 May 1801, Francis Myers on board the Defiance, Seaman, Witnessed by Captain and Master See (325)

Pdf p.156
No. 504
Sam’l Hood
Tho’s Baker “Minden & Griffon” – vid Ba 863 Will in Case H/5126  24 November 1811

[any reference to Case (later in 1940) was usually a reference to an Admiralty Volume number]

Pdf p.159
No. 545 Thomas Hood, “Intrepid”, on board, 23 December 1853 [reference to £5 and several names, some on board] Sister Caroline [other notes after]

Pdf p.160
No. 548 William Hood, Dke of Wellington, on board, 2 March 1835, Mary Hood, 42 Granby St, Devonport, Sole Wife & Ex’r, 9 April 1835, Ex’r JI, Case 533/1865


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Re: Captain John Hood, Ship "Brothers" London-Selby-York (possibly from Scarborough)
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 18 August 16 17:09 BST (UK) »
...

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D4L4-FXR?i=227&wc=MLVD-L23%3A165411201%2C165411202%2C165412401%3Fcc%3D1840743&cc=1840743

In ratio of normal generation of families father to son ages seems right and there is nothing to say George Hood d 1845 Selby father was a mariner either. ( The John Hood b 1737 mariner of Selby always seems far too old to be George's dad anyway)

John Hood age 23 X Elizabeth Gibson age 21 marriage of intent bond allegation Dec 15th 1779 in Newcastle

Innkeepers, Maltsters, Brewers  & Wood Keg/barrel makers all fit together at the back of a pub/inn them days.


George Hood son of John Hood 1st October 1786 Gateshead

Obscure George Hood suddenly shows up from nowhere or anywhere with no known history in Selby & takes over a bankrupt Cooper business of Richard Gibson 1811/12  Selby

George Hood age 28 (b 1787 age given by George himself ) x Sarah Russel married in Selby 1815

Thanks dobfarm

Been looking at other HOOD Gateshead events, around the time of this George Hood, October 1786 Gateshead Baptism:-

 ... Geo: S. of John Hood

Three Hood Baptisms at Gateshead apparently, are:-

Gateshead 1786 George Hood [matches our George Hood's age at his 1815 marriage]
Gateshead 1792 Sarah Hood, possible marriages 1811 Chester Le Street, or 1814 Newcastle to Thos Gibson.
Gateshead 1805 Eliza Hood, possible marriage 1826 Newcastle?

(Also found Eliza Hood, Ryton, Durham, baptism, 13 March 1805, but Durham is some distance South of Gateshead)

Thank you

Kind regards, Mark


EDIT: My suggestion is not going to work, because two other Gateshead events checked, don't share John Hood as father ...

Images 140 & 789:-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XCQ9-Y8H?mode=g&i=91&owc=collection%2F1309819%2Fwaypoints&wc=9K5S-PTL%3A13618101%2C24866801%2C24866802%3Fcc%3D1309819&cc=1309819

Christenings in Oct'r 1792
7. Sarah, D. of Francis Hood


Gateshead Burials 1810
1st Oct, Rebecca Hood buried age 23, [birth about 1787], daughter of Francis Hood.

Both were daughters of Francis Hood

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Re: Captain John Hood, Ship "Brothers" London-Selby-York (possibly from Scarborough)
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 18 August 16 19:30 BST (UK) »
John Hood age 23 X Elizabeth Gibson age 21 marriage of intent bond allegation Dec 15th 1779 in Newcastle Occupation Mar   = mariner

Got to find John Hood baptism 1756

Only one coming up.

John Hood son of John & Mary Hood
 
baptism, 13 March 1757

WASHINGTON, DURHAM, ENGLAND (next parish to Sunderland)

Elizabeth Gibson daughter of John & Mary Gibson

baptism 25 March 1759

SUNDERLAND, DURHAM, ENGLAND
 
also

Elizabeth Gibson Daughter of Thomas Gibson

Baptism 5 August 1759

ALL SAINTS, NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE, NORTHUMBERLAND, ENGLAND


residence: Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England

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Need if possible to find more on Richard Gibson the Cooper Selby
 





 

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Re: Captain John Hood, Ship "Brothers" London-Selby-York (possibly from Scarborough)
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 18 August 16 19:47 BST (UK) »
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dobfarm, please can you find the 1792 & 1805 links to the GATESHEAD Baptism images for these other Hood baptisms at Gateshead please?
unquote

When I get a bit of spare time as could be a long job as images are one page at a time flip over -no index on familysearch original BT images.



Edited

By 1805 Gateshead parish are part dades records (sods law for 1786 George)

Sarah Hood daughter of Francis Hood 7th Oct 1792


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Cant find Eliz Hood baptisn 1805 Gateshead------------------Could be Eliz Hood birth year 1805 and baptised say upto 1808

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XCQ9-GYS?i=483&wc=9K5S-PTL%3A13618101%2C24866801%2C24866802%3Fcc%3D1309819&cc=1309819

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XCQ9-1SM?i=503&wc=9K5S-PTL%3A13618101%2C24866801%2C24866802%3Fcc%3D1309819&cc=1309819

Either pay £1.50 to find out a date in link below

http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/SearchResults.php

Or advance year by year from 1805 baptisms in above link looking a birth years 1805
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Re: Captain John Hood, Ship "Brothers" London-Selby-York (possibly from Scarborough)
« Reply #41 on: Friday 19 August 16 00:17 BST (UK) »
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dobfarm, please can you find the 1792 & 1805 links to the GATESHEAD Baptism images for these other Hood baptisms at Gateshead please?
unquote

When I get a bit of spare time as could be a long job as images are one page at a time flip over -no index on familysearch original BT images.


Hello dobfarm

I have found two of the other Gateshead images and Francis Hood was their father, so my suggestion (thinking that John Hood was their father and therefore they were siblings of George bapt 1786) and that there might be a later sideways link to George Hood, was wrong.

Found the John Hood = Elis Gibson December 1779 Marriage in the All Saints Newcastle upon Tyne BT (attached).

Thank you

Regards Mark

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Re: Captain John Hood, Ship "Brothers" London-Selby-York (possibly from Scarborough)
« Reply #42 on: Friday 19 August 16 00:40 BST (UK) »
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dobfarm, please can you find the 1792 & 1805 links to the GATESHEAD Baptism images for these other Hood baptisms at Gateshead please?
unquote

When I get a bit of spare time as could be a long job as images are one page at a time flip over -no index on familysearch original BT images.


Hello dobfarm

I have found two of the other Gateshead images and Francis Hood was their father, so my suggestion (thinking that John Hood was their father and therefore they were siblings of George bapt 1786) and that there might be a later sideways link to George Hood, was wrong.

Found the John Hood = Elis Gibson December 1779 Marriage in the All Saints Newcastle upon Tyne BT (attached).

Thank you

Regards Mark

Well John Hood 1779 marriage to Elizabeth Gibson was a mariner and no doubt could have sailed to Selby

 
(Not Selby John Hood b 1737 mariner husband of Jane )

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What is so interesting is this John Hood of marriage 1779 to Elizabeth Gibson is his age b 1756 is just right to be George Hood d 1845 father

James Hood & Sarah Arundel sending time in Sunderland also interesting
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Re: Captain John Hood, Ship "Brothers" London-Selby-York (possibly from Scarborough)
« Reply #43 on: Friday 19 August 16 08:40 BST (UK) »
Hello dobfarm and All

Thank you. A brief Timeline, for John Hood & Newcastle - Gateshead area ...

December 1779
John Hood, Mariner = Elis Gibson December 1779 Marriage at All Saints Church, Newcastle upon Tyne

16 November 1782
"Mary" is brought back from Inverness, by Hood (Arrival Shields)

November 1782
John Hood, Master at Newcastle Quay with the MARY of Inverness - For Auction 19th November

October 1786 at St Mary's Gateshead
Baptism
Geo: S. of John Hood

1787
On page 3 of this thread, image of 1787 Gateshead Directory John Hood, publican, Ship, South-shore
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731922.18

Hopefully, possibly all the same John Hood, sounds like any Victualler/Publican and Mariner archives for Newcastle/Gateshead, a must see, for me.

12th May 1787. Also got a farm To Let, presently occupied by John Hood, Tenant of the Farm at Shotton, near Paston, in Northumberland. Particulars from a Mr Heron, Clavering Place, Newcastle upon Tyne.

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Re: Captain John Hood, Ship "Brothers" London-Selby-York (possibly from Scarborough)
« Reply #44 on: Friday 19 August 16 11:25 BST (UK) »
Further to my last post above.

Attachment of ...

16 November 1782
"Mary" is brought back from Inverness by Hood (Arrival Shields)

It seems the "Mary" was plying the Inverness route and possibly why she was called the MARY of Inverness lying at Newcastle Quay for the 19th November 1782 Auction.

I'll have a look on Scotlands People later.

Regards Mark