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Re: "PAPERS PAST" Update Part IV
« Reply #72 on: Thursday 09 March 17 21:29 GMT (UK) »
No doubt PP is a fantastic resource.
Does anyone know how to do a search with exclusions?
I would like to search "Hawkes" but not get results with "Hawkes Bay".
I am only searching the 2 Thames papers and of the 6994 results I suspect many are for "Hawkes Bay".
BELL - Crumlin / Glenavy / New Zealand
CORMICAN - Crumlin
WHITE - Crumlin
MATHEWS - Comber NI
TOLERTON - New Zealand

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Re: "PAPERS PAST" Update Part IV
« Reply #73 on: Thursday 09 March 17 23:36 GMT (UK) »
No doubt PP is a fantastic resource.
Does anyone know how to do a search with exclusions?
I would like to search "Hawkes" but not get results with "Hawkes Bay".
I am only searching the 2 Thames papers and of the 6994 results I suspect many are for "Hawkes Bay".

Hi Spud, no problem, easy. Try this, copy the text between the curly brackets exactly:

{hawkes -" bay "}

It looks like this gives about 60,000 results with minimal "Hawkes Bay" content.

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« Reply #74 on: Friday 10 March 17 00:40 GMT (UK) »
No doubt PP is a fantastic resource.
Does anyone know how to do a search with exclusions?
I would like to search "Hawkes" but not get results with "Hawkes Bay".
I am only searching the 2 Thames papers and of the 6994 results I suspect many are for "Hawkes Bay".

Hi Spud, no problem, easy. Try this, copy the text between the curly brackets exactly:

{hawkes -" bay "}

It looks like this gives about 60,000 results with minimal "Hawkes Bay" content.
Thanks, I get the gist of how that works. Not 60,000, but down to a slightly more manageable 5877!
BELL - Crumlin / Glenavy / New Zealand
CORMICAN - Crumlin
WHITE - Crumlin
MATHEWS - Comber NI
TOLERTON - New Zealand

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Re: "PAPERS PAST" Update Part IV
« Reply #75 on: Friday 10 March 17 02:08 GMT (UK) »
Know that feeling.

Recent Corromandel research in the 1920's ran into the VERY regular Shipping and mail schedules across all the titles I was searching. Would have loved to have excluded them, from my classified's copy research. The joys of research, but from the comfort of my home, NOT the hours spent in Libraries of yesteryear research, so not complaining.
- Alan.
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« Reply #76 on: Friday 10 March 17 04:12 GMT (UK) »
Know that feeling.

Recent Corromandel research in the 1920's ran into the VERY regular Shipping and mail schedules across all the titles I was searching. Would have loved to have excluded them, from my classified's copy research. The joys of research, but from the comfort of my home, NOT the hours spent in Libraries of yesteryear research, so not complaining.
- Alan.

Hi Alan - if you're searching as opposed to browsing page-to-page, judicious use of the "-" operator may help you out in those situations. I'm here to help if you ever want tips, just let me know.

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Re: "PAPERS PAST" Update Part IV
« Reply #77 on: Friday 10 March 17 09:48 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Papers Past.

The exercise I have just done these last few wet days, was looking into the Re-hab settlement of Hikuai, on the Corromandel.  In the end I had collected well over 100 newspaper clippings [or computer screen parts thereof] which I notated with source details.

For a start I did a newspaper search using:-

Hikuai and another identifier word [ballot – settlement- lease etc] (all words)
Confined to a search period 1920 – 1930 inclusive.
Editorial – advertising – pictorial.
And either “All available newspapers” OR some times restricted to local region prints.
Resulting search hits were relatively small, and I set results for date order and 100 per page. This gave me my foundation research.

Then I moved on to a more comprehensive search using only:-
Hikuai
1920 – 1930 inclusive.
Editorial – advertising – pictorial.
Selecting only Auckland, Waikato & BOP Regions print. [Waikato Times online does not extend far into this period. Plus the NZ Truth.

Hits for the period were only some 1100 BUT a large proportion in the mid 1920’s were the near daily shipping column adverts in both the NZH and the AS.  Then from about 1928 Overseas Mail or just Mail; classified mail schedule’s took over. If I attempted to exclude these repetitive hits from the PapersPast selection, I was/am concerned I could be missing that odd small classified slipped into that classified’s column.  Upon first reading I chose to ignore one such small classified advert, but now that I would like a copy of it [as with further knowledge it has some relevance to my research] I am yet to rediscover it.

The automated optical reading can be a bit arbitrary, as to where it chooses to make the cut, even where the published type, under scrutiny, is crisp and clear.

Hence my venting a little frustration at my incompetence, when I saw the above post. But as hopefully implied, I am ever so grateful to the National Library and it’s PapersPast service direct to my own home. Especially so when I think back to former days, and spending them in libraries, up and down the country, seeking info about our pioneering history.

Regards,

Alan.
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Re: "PAPERS PAST" Update Part IV
« Reply #78 on: Wednesday 26 April 17 04:20 BST (UK) »
Hi folks! We have some new stuff for you, live on the site now we have:

    Manawatu Times (1924-1928)
    Patea Mail (1921-1941)
    Pelorus Guardian and Miners' Advocate (1911-1919)
    Rangitikei Advocate and Manawatu Argus (1907-1920)
    Southern Cross (1893-1908)
    Waihi Daily Telegraph (1924-1935)
    Western Star (1873-1920)

The new titles are Southern Cross, Waihi Daily Telegraph, and Western Star - the other titles are further extensions of existing titles. The Patea Mail addition looks rather substantial.

Have fun -

The Papers Past team


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Re: "PAPERS PAST" Update Part IV
« Reply #79 on: Wednesday 26 April 17 06:11 BST (UK) »
Great,thanks team
Off to have a look  ;D ;D

Cheers Janette

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Re: "PAPERS PAST" Update Part IV
« Reply #80 on: Wednesday 26 April 17 08:03 BST (UK) »
Fantastic, thank you!  8)


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