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Re: John Simpson 1857
« Reply #45 on: Saturday 27 August 16 13:36 BST (UK) »
The obit states ''his allotted 3 score and 10 and a month or so past'' so assuming Dec 1828 as a starting point.
Genealogy-Its a family thing

Paternal: Gibbins,McNamara, Jenkins, Schumann,  Inwood, Sheehan, Quinlan, Tierney, Cole

Maternal: Munn, Simpson , Brighton, Clayfield, Westmacott, Corbell, Hatherell, Blacksell/Blackstone, Boothey , Muirhead

Son: Bull, Kneebone, Lehmann, Cronin, Fowler, Yates, Biglands, Rix, Carpenter, Pethick, Carrick, Male, London, Jacka, Tilbrook, Scott, Hampshire, Buckley

Brickwalls-   Schumann, Simpson,Westmacott/Wennicot
Scott, Cronin
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Re: John Simpson 1857
« Reply #46 on: Saturday 27 August 16 13:47 BST (UK) »
Wonder if the Unknown one aged 32 is Ellen?
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Re: John Simpson 1857
« Reply #47 on: Saturday 27 August 16 13:54 BST (UK) »
Yes. SA BDM have both Thomas and Ellen listed as Artand.
Genealogy-Its a family thing

Paternal: Gibbins,McNamara, Jenkins, Schumann,  Inwood, Sheehan, Quinlan, Tierney, Cole

Maternal: Munn, Simpson , Brighton, Clayfield, Westmacott, Corbell, Hatherell, Blacksell/Blackstone, Boothey , Muirhead

Son: Bull, Kneebone, Lehmann, Cronin, Fowler, Yates, Biglands, Rix, Carpenter, Pethick, Carrick, Male, London, Jacka, Tilbrook, Scott, Hampshire, Buckley

Brickwalls-   Schumann, Simpson,Westmacott/Wennicot
Scott, Cronin
Gedmatch Kit : T812072

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Re: John Simpson 1857
« Reply #48 on: Saturday 27 August 16 13:54 BST (UK) »
Who is this Thomas A with daughter Joyce getting married in 1945:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ibv/ I think I have it sorted. It is Thomas V A who died in 1927.

I've just found Julian in NSW. I think I need to read through you post from the beginning.  :D

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Re: John Simpson 1857
« Reply #49 on: Saturday 27 August 16 14:06 BST (UK) »
Thomas Eugene Vincent b ? M 1916 in Robe.

No link to Thomas Henry that I can see. No birth in Vic either.

Link to Obit http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article77708106 Born 1865/66 according to this. Married at 50.

The most interesting part of the obit for me links back to stories of my Nanna Simpson  staying at Struan House at times. Once again a chat with my mother is in order.

Thank you jamjar :)
Genealogy-Its a family thing

Paternal: Gibbins,McNamara, Jenkins, Schumann,  Inwood, Sheehan, Quinlan, Tierney, Cole

Maternal: Munn, Simpson , Brighton, Clayfield, Westmacott, Corbell, Hatherell, Blacksell/Blackstone, Boothey , Muirhead

Son: Bull, Kneebone, Lehmann, Cronin, Fowler, Yates, Biglands, Rix, Carpenter, Pethick, Carrick, Male, London, Jacka, Tilbrook, Scott, Hampshire, Buckley

Brickwalls-   Schumann, Simpson,Westmacott/Wennicot
Scott, Cronin
Gedmatch Kit : T812072

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Re: John Simpson 1857
« Reply #50 on: Saturday 27 August 16 14:13 BST (UK) »
It says he's the second son of Thomas Henry.

He has two sisters Miss Ellen (Penola) and one I can't read and two brothers Julian and Leo

She's Mrs George Plummer: 1909 239/388   George Plummer to Mary Augustine at Norwood

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Added: Death notice for Ellen Marie daughter of Thomas and Ellen aged 65 in 1929, 3rd column:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ibw/

Julian death NSW and obit: Julian Artand 14116/1935 father Thomas H aged 79 yrs Griffith

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ibx/

Leo in the obit is John Leo who has mentions in Trove:

Adelaide West Terrace General 1 July 1953 John L Artaud aged 81

Death:1940 620/337 Mary Augustine George PLUMMER [H] Norwood   

Her death notice, second column: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ibz/


As per SABDM and Trove births:

Ellen 1863 - BDM

Julian 23 Jan 1865 - both

Son 24 July 1866 not on BDM, on Trove, this will be Thomas E V

Donald 16 April 1868 lived 44 hrs - both

Mary Augustine not on either: but her death notice in 1940 says age 70, so that is 1870 birth

John Leo 10 June 1872 - both







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Re: John Simpson 1857
« Reply #51 on: Sunday 28 August 16 01:24 BST (UK) »
Another track to follow
Sep 1862
TH Artaud ''late H Simpson'' wishes to etc etc  http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article77078531
Sep 1862 marriage notice
Mr Thomas Henry Artan/ud 'late H Simpson to Ellen Sweeney. Etc
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article77078496

The SA marriage gives his father as William ARTAND:

Thomas Henry ARTAND FL, N, m. Helen SWEENY FL, S, 26/08/1862 St Joseph Church Penola, Gre, #51/361
Groom's Father: William ARTAND
Bride's Father: John SWEENY

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Re: John Simpson 1857
« Reply #52 on: Sunday 28 August 16 01:27 BST (UK) »
So the assumption is TH Artaud is Henry Simpson and he changed his name. Is this correct?
* I have checked shipping records ( as best I can) and birth records in England. The only Thomas H Artaud is a Thomas Haslope.

Thomas Henry ARTAND is on the 1851 census with his family:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGND-6QJ

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Re: John Simpson 1857
« Reply #53 on: Sunday 28 August 16 01:28 BST (UK) »
Marriage of William ARTAND & Maria CANN:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NVVW-K62