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"absorbed into the establishment" WW1
« on: Thursday 15 October 15 18:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Chatters,

Does anyone know the meaning of "absorbed into the establishment" in WW1, from as reported in the London Gazette, rewritten in local paper.

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Re: "absorbed into the establishment" WW1
« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 October 15 22:31 BST (UK) »
Every military unit ( regiment, company etc.) had a defined strength of men which was its "establishment" A serviceman could be attached or seconded to a regiment temporarily and ultimately absorbed into the "establishment"
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Re: "absorbed into the establishment" WW1
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 October 15 07:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Deebel,

Thanks for the response.  So I understand it is a bit like literally "dead mans shoes".  You can train for a role in a particular regiment but until that position becomes available you are just a trainee.

I have heard of "struck of strength" on WW2 papers so I guess similar.

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Spark
Commons -  Whitwick/USA/Galway
Concannon - Whitwick
Costello - Ireland
Wardle - Whitwick/Packington
Clarke - Whitwick
Lockwood - Barrow upon Soar
Bull - Whitwick/little Staughton
Moult - Coelorton
Glover - Wymeswold
Vellacott - Exmoor
Thorne - Exmoor

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Re: "absorbed into the establishment" WW1
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 17 October 15 16:19 BST (UK) »
Experienced personnel could be attached to the regiment or posted. the establishment strength could fluctuate from time to time . An overmanned regiment could return to establishment strength by normal day to day events.
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Re: "absorbed into the establishment" WW1
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 October 15 16:23 BST (UK) »
Here is a current question in parliament which illustrates the establishment versus strength of regiments

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2012-06-26b.109793.h

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Re: "absorbed into the establishment" WW1
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 October 15 16:58 BST (UK) »
Thanks for both Deebel. So strength can be higher or lower than the establishment.  So I think the establishment is the desired level.  So to be absorbed into the establishment is ? no longer on probation?

It was going so well.....

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Commons -  Whitwick/USA/Galway
Concannon - Whitwick
Costello - Ireland
Wardle - Whitwick/Packington
Clarke - Whitwick
Lockwood - Barrow upon Soar
Bull - Whitwick/little Staughton
Moult - Coelorton
Glover - Wymeswold
Vellacott - Exmoor
Thorne - Exmoor