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Re: Bromely Parish Registers - GRAY
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 17 October 15 23:46 BST (UK) »
The Arthur Grey born Beckenham is with his parents in Essex in 1891, which might help rule him out.

RG12; Piece: 1422; Folio: 20; Page: 16
Bocking Essex

George Grey   47     Engraver                        Upton, Buckinghamshire
Caroline Grey   48                                         Newington, Sussex
Elizabeth Grey   19                                           Beckenham, Kent
Arthur Grey   18   Butcher's Apprentice            Beckenham, Kent
Alice Grey           16                                           Beckenham, Kent
Jesse Grey         9                                             Braintree, Essex
Charles Grey   8                                             Braintree, Essex
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Re: Bromely Parish Registers - GRAY
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 17 October 15 23:55 BST (UK) »
What is the name of his father on the marriage certificate?
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Re: Bromely Parish Registers - GRAY
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 18 October 15 08:27 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your PM.  :)

According to the above
- On his marriage certificate in 1901, he states his father is James Gray (deceased) Steward.
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Re: Bromely Parish Registers - GRAY
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 18 October 15 12:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Brian

It helps us to help you if you don't send personal messages unless the details are about living people.

If there is info to share, please post it openly so that we can all see what is known or has been found, others will then be happier to contribute and may have further things to add. Chatters here have access to all sorts of resources and may be put off posting if they think it has all been done already, behind the scenes.

Please note that many people find the site using internet search engines and if the details aren't posted, you might miss out on potential links/ relatives.

The registers for Shoreham aren't missing, they are at the Kent Archives. They don't appear to have been digitised and put online. Neither do they seem to have been transcribed by any of the Kent Family History Societies.

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/e50b0107-50d9-4e13-8c63-1e54eb4bb6f9
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Re: Bromely Parish Registers - GRAY
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 18 October 15 18:01 BST (UK) »
- On his marriage certificate in 1901, he states his father is James Gray (deceased) Steward.

There is a death record for Arthur Christopher Grey in British Columbia :

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy/DisplayGenealogyImage?k=f828d508-034f-455f-888d-1d9db48a76da

It also gives his father's name as James , but birthplace Oxford.

It appears to be the right Arthur Grey as family members present in the 1911 census can also be found in BC in the 1921 census.
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Re: Bromely Parish Registers - GRAY
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 18 October 15 18:45 BST (UK) »
Interesting as the DOB on there is given as 2nd September 1879 Oxford, but there is no corresponding registration on Freebmd. I suppose the information could be wrong as the death was recorded by a friend, who perhaps knew when his birthday was, but not what year he was born.

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It appears to be the right Arthur Grey as family members present in the 1911 census can also be found in BC in the 1921 census.

The death certificate says he's been in BC for 55 years which would mean he emigrated in 1906, so something is wrong somewhere!

I think the Oxford could come from the fact that he was there when he married Ada. Note as well that he is spelling his name as GREY.

Marriages Jun 1901   
Busby    Ada Ellen       
GREY    Arthur Christopher       
Oxford    3a   1747

ADDED: Found them on the passenger list sailing on 28th Feb 1913 his DOB there is given as 1874. occupation Gardener.
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« Reply #15 on: Sunday 18 October 15 20:26 BST (UK) »
The son , Cecil John , was born Oxford so that may be where the discrepancy came from..
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Re: Bromely Parish Registers - GRAY
« Reply #16 on: Monday 19 October 15 01:34 BST (UK) »
You folks are good!.
All the information that has been posted here is correct, and I have documentation for everything posted.

The only thing missing is his birthday confirmation and the discrepancy is between what A.C. Grey says his birthday was as 02 September, in Shoreham, Kent and what I can find by searching on-line.

So it looks like I will have to contact the NW Kent Family History Society and have them go and look at the parish record.
Thanks Again- for all your help and suggestions
Brian Grey

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Re: Bromely Parish Registers - GRAY
« Reply #17 on: Monday 19 October 15 09:35 BST (UK) »
The fact that there is no sign of him in the census or Freebmd leads me to think that perhaps he wasn't born as Gray.
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