william patrick king

[heywood]

You and your friend seem to be very confused about Ethel.

Additionally, you are copying and pasting records e.g the bit about 1911 so that often makes it difficult to follow the information.

Joan's birth certificate should show mother's maiden name and any other names e.g 'formerly ...'

The King/ Tootle marriage would show Ethel's previous name too. You would also then have William's father's name.

I think your friend has the wrong Ethel with the one born in Rawtenstall.

[anneelaine]

Hi Yes Just told her this,
 She is going to look for her mums birth certificate  and find out what names  are on it
or order one, if her brother has it
thanks, AnneElaine

[anneelaine]

HAYWOOD Just asked her   She said  I do not know
  no one has ever said Neston to me
 only on her dad side     

[Sinann]

Did Joan have any brothers or sisters?

[anneelaine]

 Sinann
 Her mum just told her the family the Kings were from there  so you could be right
Ty Anneelaine

[heywood]

Going back to the Tootle marriage

John W and Ethel M Davies/McCooey married 1919

Birth Ronald W Tootle 1920 Chester - mother Davies
Death Ronald W 1921

John W Tootle died 1921

[anneelaine]

HAYWOOD
Been on the phone to her and said he could be right Parkgate  is next to Neston and  she said she thinks the mother passed away young  and she had to bring up the family it was a big family but a lot passed away early
Joan had 1 sister and 3 brothers Mary King  Peter King and Terrence King .
 Anneelaine

[heywood]

I think this could be Ethel in 1911 indexes

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW36-FVP

[anneelaine]

  thank you
anneelaine