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Re: James Egan - trying to unravel two lines
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 15 November 15 13:56 GMT (UK) »
Just a thought as well, if James's father was from Ireland that fits with James being given the middle name of Patrick.  ;D
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Re: James Egan - trying to unravel two lines
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 15 November 15 14:01 GMT (UK) »
In 1851 Mary Snow of 5 Sutton St also has with her a son Frederick, 24 b Kensington.

Possibly the Frederick Blake Snow baptised at St Mary Abbot's, Kensington, on 30 Jan 1825. 

Parents: John (attorney's clerk) and Mary, of Church Court.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: James Egan - trying to unravel two lines
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 15 November 15 14:04 GMT (UK) »
Baptism, 1 Apr 1816, Dulverton, Somerset

Maria Snow, daughter of John & Mary.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: James Egan - trying to unravel two lines
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 15 November 15 15:36 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: avm228 on Sunday 15 November 15 13:52 GMT (UK)
Quote from: groom on Sunday 15 November 15 13:28 GMT (UK)

Elizabeth Maria Snow
Marriage to James Egan
1833
23 Sep
Old Church, St Pancras

The name Elizabeth doesn't appear in the parish record of this marriage - as Groom pointed out it comes from an Ancestry tree only.

As Judi has posted the bride's name was just Maria Snow.


BUT the name Elizabeth Maria appears on one of the baptisms - father is James = Soda Water Manufacturer.  Mary Ann Isabella born 10 October 1833, baptised 6 January 1834 at Langham, Westminster.

William James (1836) just James and Maria = Ginger Beer Maker.
Joseph (1838) just James and Maria = Soda Water Maker
James Bernard (1840) now James BERNARD and Maria = Soda Water Manufacturer
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Re: James Egan - trying to unravel two lines
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 15 November 15 15:39 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: BumbleB on Sunday 15 November 15 15:36 GMT (UK)
Quote from: avm228 on Sunday 15 November 15 13:52 GMT (UK)
Quote from: groom on Sunday 15 November 15 13:28 GMT (UK)

Elizabeth Maria Snow
Marriage to James Egan
1833
23 Sep
Old Church, St Pancras

The name Elizabeth doesn't appear in the parish record of this marriage - as Groom pointed out it comes from an Ancestry tree only.

As Judi has posted the bride's name was just Maria Snow.


BUT the name Elizabeth Maria appears on one of the baptisms - father is James = Soda Water Manufacturer.  Mary Ann Isabella born 10 October 1833, baptised 6 January 1834 at Langham, Westminster.

William James (1836) just James and Maria = Ginger Beer Maker.
Joseph (1838) just James and Maria = Soda Water Maker
James Bernard (1840) now James BERNARD and Maria = Soda Water Manufacturer

That is the other family though (Marylebone). 
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: James Egan - trying to unravel two lines
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 15 November 15 15:54 GMT (UK) »
I can see others are getting confused with this line as well. Will order the James Patrick birth this week. Hopefully that will answer the question.

Researching: Collins-Hertfordshire, Chiswick and London areas; Johnson and Egan in Hammersmith; Gurney - Brentford; Goodhew - Essex.

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Re: James Egan - trying to unravel two lines
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 15 November 15 16:14 GMT (UK) »
Yes, avm228 - I had realised that this was the other family.  However, I was just adding that "Elizabeth" had occurred as an additional forename for Maria, as had Bernard for James.  Very sorry if I have added to the confusion - it was meant to add to the confirmation that this was the wrong family line for ShaCollins24.

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Re: James Egan - trying to unravel two lines
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 15 November 15 19:31 GMT (UK) »
I agree BumbleB ( I think!) if Maria was Elizabeth Maria Snow she isn't the right one. Only one solution to this - the birth certificate.  ;D

The puzzle also is where is the other family in 1841?
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Re: James Egan - trying to unravel two lines
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 15 November 15 21:28 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: groom on Sunday 15 November 15 19:31 GMT (UK)
I agree BumbleB ( I think!) if Maria was Elizabeth Maria Snow she isn't the right one. Only one solution to this - the birth certificate.  ;D

The puzzle also is where is the other family in 1841?

I really don't think there was an Elizabeth Maria Snow.

James Egan married Maria Snow on 23 Sep 1833 (as previously seen).

James Bernard Egan appears to have married Elizabeth Maria Castree, St Marylebone, 23 Jan 1832.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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