James Egan - trying to unravel two lines

[ShaCollins24]

Cross poster with Judi, but the James Bernard Egan (Marylebone) baptism looks likely to be a separate person - born after James Patrick's birth had been registered (in Kensington).

Yes as that is where I get confused as others seem to confuse the two. I think James Bernard is the other one not the one I want.

[ShaCollins24]

I want to thank everyone who has taken the time to do a search. I too have come up with the same info. Just get confused with the James Bernard and if you look at some of the trees on ancestry people have confused the two as well and I think I am letting that guide my way more than I should. I know not to believe others trees but to follow my own research.

I suppose what I need to know if I can firmly dismiss the James Bernard.

[groom]

I think James Bernard is the one whose father was the Ginger Beer maker in 1841. There is a possibility - from a tree on Ancestry, that his mother was actually Elizabeth Maria

Elizabeth Maria Snow
Marriage to James Egan
1833
23 Sep
Old Church, St Pancras

[ShaCollins24]

Is this your James's birth?

James Patrick Egan
1840  Jan-Feb-Mar
Kensington
Volume:   3 Page:   274

His birth certificate should give his mother's maiden name, from there you may be able to trace their marriage.

I believe so, I just need to order the certificate.

[avm228]

Agree you need the birth certificate but in the meantime suggest you have another look at the 4 Sutton St Egan family in 1851.  On the same page, at 5 Sutton St, is a widowed Mary Snow, 66 b Willington Somerset, who has in her household a granddaughter Mary Egan 17 b Kensington - possibly an older sister of James Patrick.

I suggest Mary Snow is worth investigating in case she is the mother of Maria Egan, who also has a Somerset birthplace.

[judi2632]

Name:   Maria Snow
Spouse:   Jas Egan
Marriage Date:   1833
Parish:   St. Pancras

also

Name:   Maria Snow
Spouse:   James Egan
Marriage   23 Sep 1833
Parish Chapel, St Pancras
Borough   Camden

So that looks to be a great Poss , But to be 100% you do need to order the birth record as suggested.

[BumbleB]

Plus baptisms at St Peter, Hammersmith:  children of James and Susan Egan of 2 Grove Villas.  James is a Baker.

Sidney Percy - born 15 November 1873, baptised 1 February 1874

Charles Edward - born 14 June and baptised 5 August 1877

[groom]

I can see why you are getting confused!  That family in 1841 has a Mary Egan who would would fit with the Mary Egan in 1851 as well!

I think before you do any more, you need the certificate to find if she was Maria Snow. Let us know!

[avm228]

Elizabeth Maria Snow
Marriage to James Egan
1833
23 Sep
Old Church, St Pancras

The name Elizabeth doesn't appear in the parish record of this marriage - as Groom pointed out it comes from an Ancestry tree only.

As Judi has posted the bride's name was just Maria Snow.