searching for Mary Ann Bartrum & Benjamin Bartram Northumberland

[c-side]

Ord is a little place a couple of miles south west of Berwick.  Where did you find Mary's birth place?

Also you continue to say that you need Benjamin's birth but you already have the only record of his birth.  Civil registration did not start in this country until 1st July 1837.  To find anyone before that date you generally have to rely on church records.  Date of baptism replaces date of birth (unless it is provided with the baptism record) and date of burial replaces date of death.

There is no sign of a marriage for Benjamin in Northumberland from 1813 to 1837 so I suspect they may have married in Scotland or on the border.

Christine

[Rosinish]

Could this be Mary Ewart

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J99H-RQJ

Annie

[c-side]

Looks promising, but no mention of Ord Moor

Christine

[MONGERSMOM]

Sorry just learned tonight that there are no actual birth certificates from that time, just coming up to this stage with my whole tree.  i have mary ann's and Johns marriage license and the 1851 census
Name   Mary Ann Bartram
Age   11
Estimated Birth Year   1840
Relation   Daughter
Father's Name   Benjamin Bartram
Mother's Name   Mary Bartram
Gender   Female
Where born   Northd, Ord Moor
Civil parish   Ilderton
County/Island   Northumberland
Country   England
Registration district   Glendale
Sub-registration district   Ford
ED, institution, or vessel   9
Household schedule number   3

[Rosinish]

Looks promising, but no mention of Ord Moor

May be on the original?

Annie

[Rosinish]

Was the name Robert elsewhere in the family as the name Mary seems to continue?

Annie

[c-side]

Looks like it is on the 1851 census.

If you are going to have to rely on parish records for your info now this is an excellent site on the places in Northumberland

http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/Parishes.html

[MONGERSMOM]

and odd that I found basically the same info but as a Mary Ann and different dates, census records with Benjamin state she was born in 1804 and i have christening records.
Name   Mary Ann Ewart
Gender   Female
Birth Date   08 Jul 1804
Baptism Date   15 Jul 1804
Baptism Place   Berwick Upon Tweed,Northumberland,England
FHL Film Number   94987, 94988
Household Members   
Name   Age
Mary Brown   
Robert Ewart   
Mary Ann Ewart

[c-side]

Also confusing - 1851 census gives birth place of daughter Mary Ann as Ord Moor.  Mary is shown as coming from Milfield which is in the parish of Kirknewton.