look up death John Wood

[cando]

Thank you David. 

The 1841 SA census was for the ?closely settled areas only.  Have a look at Graham Jaunay's website for more info.  I can't bring it up at the moment.

After waiting patiently....this page will help with the history of the Old Church of England Cemetery in Saddleworth which was established in 1850.  Records have been lost HOWEVER there is a list of those possibly buried in that particular cemetery and it includes Betsy Elizabeth and a Frederick.  Possibly the names have been taken from the death index for deaths at Saddleworth.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~deadsearch/saddleworth_whip.htm

From linked thread

WOOD Frederick born  25 Aug 1842 at Thebarton, father WOOD John, mother GARSIDE Elizabeth

WOOD Frederick  14 years  Status child  Relative not recorded
6 Aug 1857
Residence Saddleworth  Death Place Saddleworth  Gil F 7/91

Symbol F Informant is a possible Family Member

Cando

[cando]

In 1840

On the Baboo - John aged 25, wife 22, and daughter 2.

So the BABOO John born c1815 and wife c1818 and daughter born c1838 however ages on shipping records are often inaccurate.

And

Elizabeth was born c1818 and this John c1817.  I can't see another possiblity on my resource for John's death prior to 1871 when Elizabeth died.

WOOD John  37 years  Status not recorded  Relative not recorded
15 Feb 1854
Residence (not recorded)  Death Place (not recorded)   Ade 3/43

Cando

[cando]

WOOD John, Elizabeth GARSIDE, Dau arrived in SA 10 Mar 1840 aboard BABOO from Liverpool 24 Nov 1839 [Source:2,4,7,21,29,41]

2.   Register of Emigrant Labourers Applying for a Free Passage to South Australia 1836-41, PRO CO 386/149-151
4.   South Australian Birth Registration Certificates Index 1842-1928, Genealogy SA, 2012
7.   Biographical Index of South Australians 1836-1885, SAGHS, 1986
8.   Manifests of Vessels Arriving from Overseas 1838-42, SAA, GRG41/8 (A743)
21. Return of sick and destitute emigrants receiving relief 1840, SAA, GRG24/1
41. B Leadbeater, South Australia Births 1836-54, Adelaide, 2010-2014

Biographical Index of South Australians.  - Not identified as arriving on the RAJASTHAN and doesn't mention Saddleworth however Betsey may have moved there following his death which may have been in Adelaide. 

WOOD John arrived by 1840
Occupation Labourer
Lived Thebarton, Adelaide, Reedbeds
Religion Church of England
Married Elizabeth
Children Alexander 1840-1908; Frederick 1842-; Emma 1845-.

21. Return of sick and destitute emigrants receiving relief 1840, SAA, GRG24/1

Check TROVE as the lists of sick and destitute persons were listed in the newspapers of the day.  If your John did die in 1854 Betsey may have fallen on hard times or John may have been ill and may have applied for assistance for his family.

Cando

[DavidG02]

To throw a spanner in the works - maybe- found a death of an Elizabeth Wood 30.1.1876 born 1817 wife of ( living) John Wood at Magill - which makes more sense from Thebarton/Reedbeds area.

Off to Trove for obits etc

[DavidG02]

Not sure how to make sense of this

A Mary Jane given a birth date of 18 October 1849  in the District of Gilbert to John and Elizabeth (nee Garside) RN 2/208

Another Mary Jane Wood baptized in Adelaide District 15 May 1849 to John and Elizabeth ( no last name given for Elizabeth) No Registration number

One record is from AusBirthsBaps 1792-1981

The first is from SA Births 1842-1928

I agree the Gilbert District one follows the paperwork as we see it. But I had a thought when I first saw this thread and the marriage of Mary Jane in Riverton - which I thought was near Saddleworth.(just checked 10km away)

I couldn't believe - as much as the pull of home would be - why a person would move out of the city to a place in the country - just because it was his birth town name.

Nice little puzzle.

[Spike H]

They appear to have had two children named Mary Jane.
Both are listed in SA Births. One was born 2nd Oct 1847 at Adelaide in the Dist of Adelaide, Book/page 2/21. 15th May 1849 as given above looks like the baptism date. Unable to locate death reference.

The second Mary Jane born in October that year as per previous post.

[cando]

BISA and the shipping records are transcribed and compiled from other records and sadly often far from accurate so perhaps if we start again.  Bear in mind that not all bdm's in South Australia were registered.  All sorts of reasons including failure of the local registrations to reach Adelaide. 

There was another John WOOD with wife Elizabeth living in the eastern suburbs of Adelaide ie Kensington, Norwood and Magill. And another couple living south of Adelaide.


WOOD Alexander born 18 Feb 1840 at Adelaide, father WOOD John, mother GARSIDE
Elizabeth

Marriage - Stirling North is near Port Augusta.
WOOD Alexander  22 years  Status not recorded  Father John WOOD
WILSON Elizabeth 21 years  Status not recorded  Father William WILSON
18 Jun 1862
At the United Presbyterian Church Stirling [North]  Fro 50/

Birth
WOOD Frederick born  25 Aug 1842 at Thebarton, father WOOD John, mother GARSIDE Elizabeth 

Death
WOOD Frederick  14 years  Status child  Relative not recorded
6 Aug 1857
Residence Saddleworth  Death Place Saddleworth  Gil F 7/91
Symbol F Informant is a possible Family Member

Catherine born c1843 did not have her birth registered and she would be the youngest daughter.

AIKEN - On the 18th November, at Booleroo Centre Hospital, Catherine Thirza (Kate), loved wife of Hugh James Aiken, Booleroo Whim, and youngest daughter of the late John and B. Wood, Saddleworth, leaving four daughters and two sons, one on active service (reported missing).

Marriage
AIKEN Hugh James 24 years  Status single  Father Oliver AIKEN
WOOD Catherine 20 years  Status single  Father John WOOD
22 Apr 1873
At Holy Trinity Church Riverton  Gil 95/232
Death
AIKEN Catherine Thirza  64 years  Status Married  Relative Hugh James AIKEN [Husband]
18 Nov 1917
Residence Booleroo Whim  Death Place Booleroo Centre  Fro H 414/368
 
Birth
WOOD Emma
18 Apr 1845
Father John WOOD  Mother Elizabeth GARSIDE
At Reed Beds    Ade 1/107

Death - and age is not quite accurate
WOOD Emma  70 years  Status Single  Relative John WOOD [Father]
10 Jan 1917
Residence Booleroo Whim  Death Place Booleroo Whim  Fro 407/399

Birth
WOOD Mary Jane
2 Oct 1847
Father John WOOD    Mother Elizabeth GARSIDE
At Adelaide   Ade 2/21   [Died before 1849]

Birth
WOOD Mary Jane
18 Oct 1849
Father John WOOD   Mother Elizabeth GARSIDE
At Gilbert   Ade2/208  This is the Gilbert River Valley which includes Riverton, Saddleworth etc.

Marriage
OTTAWAY Thomas Finch  31 years  Status single  Father Thomas Finch OTTAWAY
WOOD Mary Jane  28 years  Status single  Father John WOOD
9 Jan 1878
At Holy Trinity Church Riverton  Gil 114/85

Hope that help sort out the children however none of this really helps with your request.

Cando

[DixieFamily]

Thank you to everyone again for your assistance.

Also for the summary Cando to recap. (Sorry you are having lots of problems withe internet Cando - how frustrating).

As noted by Cando some of the records are not accurate. But the first issue for me was when did John
Wood, Elizabeth Garside arrive?  Was it on the Baboo on 10 March 1840 with their daughter or on the Rajasthan on 6 Feb 1840?  Their son Alexander was born on 18 February 1840 in Adelaide so you would presume it was on the Rajasthan. But the John Wood who arrived on the Rajasthan died soon after (according to the records). 

A girl Charlotte Wood died aged 2 on 8 June 1840 - address Payneham. Parents John and Elizabeth.
Perhaps this girl does not belong to my Wood family and given the Payneham address perhaps it is people living in Kensington, Norwood and Magill (as per Cando's info)?

In the 1841 census there is a J Wood listed with 1 child under 7, 1 male under 35 and 1 female under 35. Census address is Hindley Street. 

Other children born Frederick in 1842 at Thebarton, Catherine Thirza (not registered) c1853, Emma at Reed Beds 1845, Mary Jane born 1847 Adelaide (and died before 1849) and Mary Jane born 1849 at Gilbert.

Thankyou to DavidGO2 re checking on Trove re both John and Betty. I also had a look and couldn't find anything.

Info from Cando re Frederick Wood and Betsy Elizabeth sounds very positive and the right family - thank you. And the only possibility re John Wood death in 1854.

So if I request death certificate for John from 1854 am I going to get much information? And for Betsey in 1871 to confirm anything?

Sorry to keep asking questions...just would like to tidy this family up (if at all possible).

regards

[cando]

So if I request death certificate for John from 1854 am I going to get much information? And for Betsey in 1871 to confirm anything?

Don't waste your money with a certificate - very expensive.  Transcriptions are available from Graham Jaunay and SAGHS.  Graham would be my choice.  I can't get his website to load but I'm sure there is an order form on this page.
http://www.jaunay.com/transcription.html

Details on SA death certificates are scant and the the John's residence and place of death was not recorded on the death index.  It is possible the occupation and informant may help identify him ie if you know his occupation.
1842-1907
    Date of Death
    Name
    Sex
    Age
    Occupation
    Usual Residence
    Cause of Death
    Place of Death
    Informant

Cando