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Re: Which is correct Birth date
« Reply #18 on: Friday 20 November 15 21:46 GMT (UK) »


I had her death as 1991
Paylet, Pallatt, Morris (Russia, UK) Burke, Hillery, Page, Rumsey, Stevens, Tyne/Thynne(UK)  Landman, van Rooyen, Tyne, Stevens, Rumsey, Visagie, Nell (South Africa)

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Re: Which is correct Birth date
« Reply #19 on: Friday 20 November 15 21:51 GMT (UK) »
That's a possibility, Philip. Pity there's no relationships given on the 1939, but that would explain why she was listed as Pallet - her married name, then Burke and Berkovitz as other names. So she was either born a Berkovitz and anglicised it to Burke or married a Burke. As the names are so similar I'd go for the former.

Oh - look what I've just found!

Hetty Berkovitz
Mother's Maiden Name:   Schneiden
Registration Year:   1914
Registration Quarter:   Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:   Newport
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Re: Which is correct Birth date
« Reply #20 on: Friday 20 November 15 21:56 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: groom on Friday 20 November 15 21:51 GMT (UK)
That's a possibility, Philip. Pity there's no relationships given on the 1939, but that would explain why she was listed as Pallet - her married name, then Burke and Berkovitz as other names. So she was either born a Berkovitz and anglicised it to Burke or married a Burke. As the names are so similar I'd go for the former.

Oh - look what I've just found!

Hetty Berkovitz
Mother's Maiden Name:   Schneiden
Registration Year:   1914
Registration Quarter:   Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:   Newport

The sound you hear is me gasping with awe.  I think you've cracked it!
Please help me to help you by citing sources for information.

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Re: Which is correct Birth date
« Reply #21 on: Friday 20 November 15 22:07 GMT (UK) »
Isaac Berkovitz (mmn Schneiden) born Newport 1912
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Which is correct Birth date
« Reply #22 on: Friday 20 November 15 22:07 GMT (UK) »
So, Hetty Berkovitz was born 1st August 1914 and was probably the sister of Emanuel who was born in Romania. At some point before 1939 she changed her name to Burke and was living with her brother and his family and possibly another brother Isaac who had also changed his name.

I wonder if this is a connection as well?

Marriage

Isaac Berkovitz
Registration Year:   1901
Registration Quarter:   Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:   Merthyr Tydfil

spouse Annie Snaden ( possibly changed from Schneiden?)
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Re: Which is correct Birth date
« Reply #23 on: Friday 20 November 15 22:08 GMT (UK) »
Looks like we've cracked it!   ;D ;D
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« Reply #24 on: Friday 20 November 15 22:09 GMT (UK) »
Joseph Berkovitz, son of Emmanuel and Fanny, born Merthyr 1910.....
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Which is correct Birth date
« Reply #25 on: Friday 20 November 15 22:17 GMT (UK) »
1901 ie before his marriage


Isaac Berkovitz  27  boarder   watch maker   Where born:   Roumainia
 
RG13; Piece: 5030; Folio: 110; Page: 18   Merthyr Tydfil
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Re: Which is correct Birth date
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 21 November 15 02:11 GMT (UK) »
The 1991 Leics death is probably for :
On the 1939:
Hetty    Pallett    1907    Coalville U.D.    Leicestershire

She's single and dob is exact (Plus one).

Maureen   


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