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Newbury 1851 TWITCHIN and variations
« on: Friday 15 July 05 03:25 BST (UK) »
I think there were 3 brothers TWITCHIN who were raising their families in Newbury in 1851 ... they were;
Joseph who married Elizabeth 1826
Benjamin who married Emma 1839
Richard who married Emma 1840

Joseph was a 'bargeman' who could have been aboard a barge in 1851 although his home was in Cheap Street.

Where the others lived I have'nt determined but I do know that an aunt named Eliza TWITCHIN was probably the proprietor of the 'Black Bear Inn' in Market Place in 1851 and may have some of the family there at the same time. 
It may be also that an older branch of the family headed by Andrew TWITCHIN and wife Sarah were living in Newbury at the same period.
Most of the recorded events Baptisms Marriages and Burials happened in St Nichlas' Parish.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Newbury 1851 TWITCHIN and variations
« Reply #1 on: Friday 15 July 05 12:03 BST (UK) »
There are various TWITCHINs, TWITCHINGs and TWITCHENs in the 1851 census.   These appear to be the only ones that match :

HO107/1685  Folio 273  Page 32
Newbury District 1C
Market Place, Black Bear
Eliza TWITCHEN, Head, Unm, 52, Female, Licensed Victualler, Newbury Berks
Eliza TWITCHEN, Neice, Unm, 18, Female, House Servant, Newbury Berks
There is a whole raft of other people at this address (mainly visitors - Paying guests ?)

Chieveley District 3B
Tything of Curridge
HO107/1685  Folio 602  Page 21

Andrew TWITCHIN, Head, Mar, 68, Male, Farmer, Kingsclere Hants
Sarah TWITCHIN, Wife, Mar, 70, Female,  , Thatcham Berks
Henry TWITCHIN, Son, Unm, 30, Male, Farmer of 190 acres employing 18 labourers, Newbury Berks
James FRITTER, Serv, Unm, 20, Male, Under Carter, Thatcham Berks
ALfred KENT, Serv, Unm, 20, Male, General Work, Hampstead Norreys Berks
Charles RUMBOLD, Serv,  , 14, Male, Plough Boy, Curridge Berks

No sign of Joseph or Richard, but there is a Benjamin TWITCHER aged 33 married to Emma with a number of children.   If you want this info, let me know.

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Hampshire: Noakes
Norfolk: Fox, Spencer, Wilkins
Northumberland: Ager, Bell, Cundy, Gair, Robinson
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Re: Newbury 1851 TWITCHIN and variations
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 July 05 02:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks Harry .......... you've found a lot for me.
I have one of those names that gets easily 'mangled' and I am quite sure that the TWITCHER family is mine so I would certainly like that detail if you dont mind.
Joseph the 'bargeman' (was probably afloat at census) who lived in Cheap Street had a few small children at about that time and I'm sure would not be on the barge with him and one of the children was 'Annie' who might have been about 11 or 12 at census time and I would like to see if a mangled name appears in that street.
I am very pleased with the detail regarding old Andrew and Sarah.
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Re: Newbury 1851 TWITCHIN and variations
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 July 05 14:35 BST (UK) »
Joboy,

Here is the "TWITCHER"
Newbury District 1F
HO107/1685 Folio 356 Page 40
St Marys Hill.  Bradley Yard


Name, Relationship, Status, Age, Gender, Occupation, Birthplace
Benjamin   TWITCHER, Head, M, 33, M, Pauper labourer, Newbury Berks
Emma TWITCHER, Wife, M, 31, F,  ,Newbury Berks
Emma TWITCHER, Daur, , 11, F, Scholar, Newbury Berks
Ann TWITCHER,Daur,  , 9, F. scholar, Newbury Berks
Harriett TWITCHER, Daur,  ,7, F, Scholar, Newbury Berks
Joseph TWITCHER, Son,  , 5, M, Scholar, Newbury Berls
Benjamin   TWITCHER, Son,  ,3, M, Scholar, Newbury Berks
John TWITCHER, Son,  , 6m, M, , Newbury Berks

You are right regarding the daughter:

Newbury District 1C
HO107/1685  Folio 269  Page 25, Schd 82
Cheap Street

Ann TWITCHEN, Daur,  , 12, F,   , Newbury Berks - note "Parents on river in barge"

She is the only record shown for this reference and I wonder whether this is transcribed incorrectly.   You really need someone with access to the originals to confirm, there are listers who regularly go to the BRO who may be able to help.

Regards
Harry
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Hampshire: Noakes
Norfolk: Fox, Spencer, Wilkins
Northumberland: Ager, Bell, Cundy, Gair, Robinson
Oxfordshire: Allmond, Beard, Burton, Cobb, Creed, Hilsdon, Nichols, Shurville
Wiltshire: Amor
Yorkshire: Bell, Fox


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Re: Newbury 1851 TWITCHIN and variations
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 17 July 05 02:30 BST (UK) »
Well Done Harry ................. it all fits despite the usual mistranscriptions.
I would love to know more about the 'TWITCHINGS' that you found in the 1851 if it is no problem.
At an earlier date (1753 - 1779) at West Woodhay the name was 'TUTCHIN' and earlier still (1633 - 1799) at Inkpen there were 'many splendored' variations.
I think that those who attended the proceedings were either drunk,hard of hearing or perhaps the attendees had a speech impediment or all three!!
Do you perchance have the 1861 for Newbury?.
Thanks very much.
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Re: Newbury 1851 TWITCHIN and variations
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 17 July 05 16:13 BST (UK) »
Joboy,

The only TWITCHING in 1851 is Jane aged 74, Widow, b Newbury, living at a lodging house in Newbury.

In 1861, Benjamin has become TWITCHIN and has a new wife and family:

RG9/720
Folio 56 page 7
West Mills

Benjamin, Head, Mar, 43, Agricultural Laborer, Newbury
Hannah, Wife, Mar, 28, Shoe Binder, Newbury
Benjamin, Son,   , 13, Scholar, Newbury
John, Son,  , 11, Scholar, Newbury
Charles, Son,  , 9, Scholar, Newbury
George, Son,  , 8, Scholar, Newbury
Cate, Daur,  , 6, Scholar, Newbury
Walter, Son,  , 4, Scholar, Newbury
Alfred, Son,  , 3, Scholar, Newbury
Sarah, Daur,  , 4m,  , Newbury

Benjamin jnr, Hannah and John are indexed as TWITCHAN - no idea why as they are all dittoed from Benjamin snr.

No sign of Joseph or Richard

Harry


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My Interests:

Berkshire: Amor, Beard, Creed, Gale, Noakes, Pearmain, Spencer, White, Willis
Cornwall / Devon: Arscott, Coram, Cundy, Eastlake, Minedue, Reeve
Essex: Ager, Garrad, Linsell, Pearmain
Hampshire: Noakes
Norfolk: Fox, Spencer, Wilkins
Northumberland: Ager, Bell, Cundy, Gair, Robinson
Oxfordshire: Allmond, Beard, Burton, Cobb, Creed, Hilsdon, Nichols, Shurville
Wiltshire: Amor
Yorkshire: Bell, Fox

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Re: Newbury 1851 TWITCHIN and variations
« Reply #6 on: Monday 18 July 05 02:24 BST (UK) »
You've done it again Harry !!
Jane TWITCHING (groan) was the mother of Benjamin (he of many variations including a new one now 'TWITCHAN' sigh).
Benjamin's first wife died 1859 and he married a widow Hannah LEWIS in 1860.
I must keep searching for Richard and Joseph.
Thank you very much ............. it ties up a number of knots.
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Re: Newbury 1851 TWITCHIN and variations
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 05 October 05 02:14 BST (UK) »
You've done it again Harry !!
Jane TWITCHING (groan) was the mother of Benjamin (he of many variations including a new one now 'TWITCHAN' sigh).
Benjamin's first wife died 1859 and he married a widow Hannah LEWIS in 1860.
I must keep searching for Richard and Joseph.
Thank you very much ............. it ties up a number of knots.
joboy



joboy, I'm very interested in Hannah LEWIS, who I believe may have been the informant for death of 'my' William WESTAL [sic] in 1839 at Cheap Street.  Do you have her maiden name, please, and witnesses to 2nd marriage?
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Newbury 1851 TWITCHIN and variations
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 05 October 05 03:01 BST (UK) »
joboy, since writing the last mail I have discovered that an LDS submitter post-1991 has 'muddied the waters' of the Newbury bargemen.  The IGI records a birthdate of 12 Mar 1820 for a Hannah LEWIS, and has linked her by marriage to your Benjamin, whereas his 2nd wife appears to have been born c1833.  I'm still interested in her origins because 'my' WESTALLs are inextricably linked to the LEWIS families at West Mills.
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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