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Parish records for Dromore Tyrone Ireland James Alexander born 5 May 1857
« on: Wednesday 09 December 15 22:27 GMT (UK) »
I'm trying to find the birth record for my Grandfather James Alexander born 5 May 1857 to Thomas Alexander & Sarah Jane Houston. his siblings were John Houston b 1954 in Dromore, Osborne b1858 in Belfast, Flemming b1862,Ann b1864, Sarah Jane b1866, Skelton b1868, Henry b1870, Mary b1865, Francis, b1876 & Rebecca b1879. Two of the children,James & Osborne were born in Belfast? & the others in Dromore, or were they registered in Belfast & born in Dromore?
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Re: Parish records for Dromore Tyrone Ireland
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 December 15 23:47 GMT (UK) »
Statutory birth registration started in Ireland in 1864 so you won’t get a birth certificate for any event prior to that year. For the births pre 1864 you would normally need to rely on church records. The family appears to have been COI. There are no Dromore, Tyrone  COI records prior to 1874 (earlier records were destroyed in the 1922 fire).

If the baptisms took place in Belfast it doesn’t necessarily mean the children were born there.  (See the 1901 census which indicates Osborne was born in Tyrone). In most protestant denominations there was no great hurry in baptizing a child and it could often take place in a parish away from where the birth took place. 


1901 census:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Dromore/Main_Street/1741725/

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Re: Parish records for Dromore Tyrone Ireland
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 10 December 15 01:43 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for the reply. It now looks like  James was born in Tyrone.
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Re: Parish records for Dromore Tyrone Ireland
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 January 16 00:55 GMT (UK) »
I have ancestors who lived in Dromore and found many news announcements which have been transcribed.  Ancestry and Find My Past have digitised many Irish newspapers.  Have broken down a couple of brick walls with information sourced from these sites.

http://cotyroneireland.com/surnames/alexander.html
August 26 1853
Married on Tuesday, the 26th ult., in Ballinahatty Presbyterian Church, by the Rev. John Houston, THOMAS ALEXANDER, ESQ., of Dromore, to SARAH JANE, eldest daughter of JOHN HOUSTON, ESQ., of Ballinahatty

Cheers and good luck :)
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Re: Parish records for Dromore Tyrone Ireland
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 January 16 08:29 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Thomas & Sarah were my Great Grandparents.
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Re: Parish records for Dromore Tyrone Ireland
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 January 16 08:46 GMT (UK) »
John Houston was one of the highest rates payers in his Barony? Is the James Alexander, Shanmullagh related? (you know how people of simmilar status liked to marry into each others families?)

"At Omagh, for the Barony of East Omagh and Co. at Large, on Friday, 27th December, 1844, at the hour of Ten o'clock in the Morning, and from thence until Six o'clock in the Evening, before the Magistrates then and there assembled, and a number, not exceeding Six, of the following highest Cess-payers of said Barony, to be then and there selected by ballot, and appointed pursuant to the provisions of said Act, viz.:--
     1 Edward Gault, Trillick.
     2 John Houston, Ballinahatty.
     3 John Orr, Beagh.
     4 James Buchanan, Deroran.
     5 Alexander M'Farland, Cooley.
     6 James Sproule, Grammon.
     7 Archibald Osborne, Dernaseer [?].
     8 James Alexander, Shanmullagh.
     9 Samuel Mackay, Legacorry.
     10 William Dickson, Cavan, Esq.
     11 William M'Grew, Mullaghmore.
     12 Andrew Patterson, Inchfern.
   Thursday the 5th day of December, 1844, will be the last day for receiving Applications.
   No Application for sudden breaches will be considered or ordered by the Grand Jury at next Lent Assizes, that has not been lodged in the Secretary's Office, on or before the 5th day of December, 1844.
   As persons willing to contract for Public Works are now aware that printed Sheets of all Applications for Presentments must be published previous to the Presentment Sessions to be held in each Barony, the Secretary requests that they will forward their Applications on or before the 1st day of December, 1844.
          ALEXANDER AUCHINLECK, Secretary."

http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Tyrone/1844/18441115.html
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Parish records for Dromore Tyrone Ireland
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 January 16 09:03 GMT (UK) »
"October 28 1843
ALEXANDER-OSBORNE. On Thursday, the 19th inst., in the Parish Church of Dromore, county Tyrone, by the Rector, the Rev. Henry L. St. George, MR. THOMAS ALEXANDER, son of MR. THOMAS ALEXANDER, merchant, Dromore, to MARY JANE, only daughter of ARCHIBALD OSBORNE, ESQ., of Dernaseer"

http://www.cotyroneireland.com/marriages/dromore.html

(ARCHIBALD OSBORNE, ESQ., of Dernaseer I notice is on the cess-payers list too) Sorry does help with your original question
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Parish records for Dromore Tyrone Ireland
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 January 16 09:14 GMT (UK) »
Rebecca, daughter of Thomas Alexander & Sarah Jane Huston, born 1873 Co. Tyrone-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGC9-LZ7
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Parish records for Dromore Tyrone Ireland James Alexander born 5 May 1857
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 January 16 10:25 GMT (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=416939.msg5796860#msg5796860

karoa we have been in contact previously.

October 21, 1859
Married on the 6th inst., in Dromore Church, by the Rev. H.L. St. George, Rector, MR. WILLIAM SKELTON, Her Majesty's Customs, London, to ISABELLA, youngest daughter of MR. JOHN OSBORNE, of Mossfield House, county Tyrone

Cando
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