Marriage 6 April 1858 Mold of John HUGHES and Ellen ROBERTS

[JGDavies]

Ah yes, I forgot about Llanrhaeadr-yng-Nghinmeirch as opposed to Llanrhaeadr-ym-Mochnant, the latter 4 miles from Llangedwyn. I'd say the former is the more likely where the John Hughes married at Mold was from. Shame, though thanks for the help.
Jon

[wilcoxon]

I can`t locate any of these census records. Where is Alltgoch ?   Where is he ( town / village)   and  what is his age and place of birth on each one.

I'm missing the marriage of a John Hughes, born 1813, parents John and Elizabeth of Alltgoch Llangedwyn / Llanrhaeadr-ym-Mochnant and wondered if this is him? He was:
1841 at Alltgoch, single, age 25
1851 Location unknown
1861 at Alltgoch, married (no mention of his wife) and a Gardener (pos. on WWWynn Estate)
1871 a widower.
1872 buried at Llangedwyn (no burial record of a Hughes who might be his wife).

[JGDavies]

Alltgoch was a cottage on a hillside south of the road between Llangedwyn and Llanrhaeadr-ym-Mochnant, the latter then often spelt Llanrhaiadr, and in the country of Denbigh.  The cottage of Alltgoch appears in the census in the Township of Trefeiliw a township of Llanrhaeadr-ym-Mochnant which was a registration disctrict of Llanfyllin. I seem to recall the township of Trefeiliw is the key to finding these census pages.

I can`t locate any of these census records. Where is Alltgoch ?   Where is he ( town / village)   and  what is his age and place of birth on each one.

In the 1841 census son John Hughes's age is given as 25.
In the 1851 census I haven't been able to find John Hughes.
The 1861 census has RG/94293 on the bottom of the page if that helps. John Hughes in this census is of age 43, Married, a Gardener at Llangedwyn (spelt Llangedwin on the census).
1869: 'John Hughes, Alltgoch' is recorded as a multiple prize winner at the 1869 Llangedwyn Show.
Recorded as buried by Llangedwyn parish register on 16 Jan 1872 age 56.

[despair]

To complete the set in 1871
RG10/5633/49/12 (Trefeiliw,aged59,alone)

I can't find a detailed record of the 1858 marriage that gives witnesses,though banns dates records exist.It seems more likely he would have married earlier than this and closer to home(?)

Regards
Roger

[JGDavies]

It seems more likely he would have married earlier than this [1858] and closer to home(?)

I agree, on that basis the 1843 wedding in Llangedwyn between a John Hughes, Butler at Brynygwalia Hall (just below Llangedwyn) who is the son of John Hughes a labourer (which fits) to Mary Freeman Housekeeper at Brynygwalia Hall makes sense as John Hughes of Alltgoch would be 27 or so.

It might be the right one but I can't find anything to back it up.
Jon

[wilcoxon]

FindMyPast only has the banns, and they only read  John Hughes of Llanrhaiadr.  Ellen Roberts of this parish
(Mold)