Booth/Gribben/D'Arcy/De Lacey adopted

[Ladyhawk]

In 1911 there's a Teddy Gribben aged 10 in Kent St. with Rose Ann aged 40.
It states he was born Belfast as was she.
They are living with relatives & Teddy is just described as such.

So is Teddy Gribben & Edward Gribben Booth one in the same.

Hi, can you tell me where you're searching?  I've looked at the National Archives.i.e. website and cant find them there.

Transcribed a LEDDEY Gribben
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/St__Anne_s_Ward/Kent_Street/133663/

[eddiebooth]

In 1911 there's a Teddy Gribben aged 10 in Kent St. with Rose Ann aged 40.
It states he was born Belfast as was she.
They are living with relatives & Teddy is just described as such.

So is Teddy Gribben & Edward Gribben Booth one in the same.

Hi, can you tell me where you're searching?  I've looked at the National Archives.i.e. website and cant find them there.

Transcribed a LEDDEY Gribben
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/St__Anne_s_Ward/Kent_Street/133663/

Got it!
Teddy could be him, my Grandmother referred to him as Ted but I thought that was to avoid confusion with "wee Eddie" (me) and "big Eddie"( my dad)

[jim1]

I searched using the address.

[Ladyhawk]

The earliest address I have for him is on his 1919 marriage certificate to Mary McShane
(its actually a 1938 copy,  not the original) which shows 48 Kent Street,  Belfast. 

I mention this because I found an online marriage record of
Edward Gribben Booth to Mary Margaret McShane in 1919.

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958

According to the 1919 marriage index Mary McShane's middle name is Catherine not Margaret

Mary Catherine McShane
Jul-Aug-Sep, 1919Belfast, Ireland Vol   1 Page 661

Edward Gribben Booth
Jul-Aug-Sep, 1919 Belfast, Ireland Vol   1 Page 661

The 1919 m/c (1938 copy) you have who witnessed their marriage?
Were they related to either couple?

[jorose]

Possibly of interest - in the same area of Belfast (St Anne's) as where the Gribben/McKenna etc. lot are living in 1911, in 1901 there is an English-born woman, Lizzie Booth, aged 30, unmarried, with a son Edward Morris Booth, aged 1, born Belfast.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__Anne_s/Talbot_Street/933944/

Talbot Street is very close to Kent Street.

http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/
 searching here gives me Edward Booth, 04 February 1900,  mother's maiden name Booth
(I know you have 3 Feb but it might be a registration date vs. birth date issue)

You may be able to locate/access a copy of this record through GRONI, but you will need an account/credits to do so:
http://blog.irishgenealogical.org/?p=1978

[eddiebooth]

The earliest address I have for him is on his 1919 marriage certificate to Mary McShane
(its actually a 1938 copy,  not the original) which shows 48 Kent Street,  Belfast. 

I mention this because I found an online marriage record of
Edward Gribben Booth to Mary Margaret McShane in 1919.

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958

According to the 1919 marriage index Mary McShane's middle name is Catherine not Margaret

Mary Catherine McShane
Jul-Aug-Sep, 1919Belfast, Ireland Vol   1 Page 661

Edward Gribben Booth
Jul-Aug-Sep, 1919 Belfast, Ireland Vol   1 Page 661

The 1919 m/c (1938 copy) you have who witnessed their marriage?
Were they related to either couple?

My mistake,  should be  Mary Catherine McShane.
Witness were
John McArdle, 44 Jennymount st (same address as Mary McShane)
Nora McShane, 5 Jennymount St

[eddiebooth]

Possibly of interest - in the same area of Belfast (St Anne's) as where the Gribben/McKenna etc. lot are living in 1911, in 1901 there is an English-born woman, Lizzie Booth, aged 30, unmarried, with a son Edward Morris Booth, aged 1, born Belfast.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__Anne_s/Talbot_Street/933944/

Talbot Street is very close to Kent Street.

I had spotted that one, but the religion is wrong unless that was his religion at birth and it changed if/when he became a Gribben

http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/
 searching here gives me Edward Booth, 04 February 1900,  mother's maiden name Booth
(I know you have 3 Feb but it might be a registration date vs. birth date issue)

saw this and it is possible, assuming my Mothers D'Arcy/De Lacey is wrong.
Frustratingly, although I know Rose Anne Gribben was living at 48 Kent St from the 1908 and 1910 street directories, that Annie Gribbon is listed in the 1918 & 1924 directories, and that Edward Booth lived there in 1919, I cant find anything in the 1901 or 1911 census for any of these, only the entry for Rose Gribben and Leddey (?Teddy?) Gribben at no.15.

[aghadowey]

I want to check into a few more things but am throwing these bits into the thread for now as there MIGHT be a connection-

Lizzie Booth, age 11, died 20 Dec.1905 Queen St. Hospital, buried same day City Cemetery (Public Ground)

Can't match up a Belfast birth BUT there is this in 1901 census-
Eliza Booth, age 7, visitor, born Lancashire England
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Falls_Ward/Oranmore_Street/981073

[Mabel Bagshawe]

this would be the registration of Edward from 1901

Edward Maurice Booth
Date of Registration:    Jan-Feb-Mar 1899
Registration district:    Belfast


presumably if adopted into an RC family they'd list him as such, despite his previous conenctions?