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Re: Need help with a Welsh ancestor Godfrey Charles Barnes 6.11.1857 Newport
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 14:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, I checked out the Charles with father Luke b Mangotsfield it looks like family were all Ag Labs etc, but there is this Charles in 1851?

William Edwards 52 occ Mason
Elizabeth 52
Charles 17 occ Mason b St Just
Residing at Ludgvan, Penzance
Census ref HO107/1917/215/17
One to check out possibly?
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Wouldn't this suggest that Charles's surname was Edwards..? The same than his future wife's...

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Re: Need help with a Welsh ancestor Godfrey Charles Barnes 6.11.1857 Newport
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 14:20 GMT (UK) »
 >:( ;D Well spotted!!

Must have Edwards on the brain,  start again looking for a Charles Barnes although I checked out a Charles Barnes father Luke!
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Re: Need help with a Welsh ancestor Godfrey Charles Barnes 6.11.1857 Newport
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 14:32 GMT (UK) »
 ;D Hi again, having at present trouble locating Elizabeth/Eliza Poulson post marriage, but this appears to be her husband John in 1861:-

John POULSOM 32 Married occ Engineer b Bristol
George Davis 26 London
Residing at Upper Solva, Haverfordwest Census ref RG09/4169/72/12
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Re: Need help with a Welsh ancestor Godfrey Charles Barnes 6.11.1857 Newport
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 16 February 16 14:00 GMT (UK) »
Luke was Charles' father. George Barns (missing ”e”?) and John Poulsom witnessed the ceremony. John was Mary's sister's Eliza's husband. George probably was Charles' brother..?


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Re: Need help with a Welsh ancestor Godfrey Charles Barnes 6.11.1857 Newport
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 16 February 16 16:39 GMT (UK) »
Luke was Charles' father. George Barns (missing ”e”?) and John Poulsom witnessed the ceremony. John was Mary's sister's Eliza's husband. George probably was Charles' brother..?

Hi again was this information from the marriage certificate, if so what was the occupation of Luke and any other information that may be relevant ie ages/addresses at marriage?
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Re: Need help with a Welsh ancestor Godfrey Charles Barnes 6.11.1857 Newport
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 16 February 16 17:00 GMT (UK) »
They got married on 25 Dec 1856 at Dale, Pembrokeshire.

Luke was a gardener. Charles was 22 and lived in Block---use (three letters difficult to read). Mary was 27.

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Re: Need help with a Welsh ancestor Godfrey Charles Barnes 6.11.1857 Newport
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 16 February 16 17:10 GMT (UK) »
OK so the Charles aged 17 b Mangotsfield could be him, as same family in 1861 have Luke 67 occ Gardener Elizabeth 66 Stephen 21
Census ref RG09/1699/52/13
Stephen ends up as a Plasterer in later census returns
1851 with Charles aged 17 b Mangotsfield
Census ref HO107/1944/232/4
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Re: Need help with a Welsh ancestor Godfrey Charles Barnes 6.11.1857 Newport
« Reply #52 on: Tuesday 16 February 16 18:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi again just to complete the census returns of Luke & family, if indeed this is the correct one:-

1841 census

Luke BANN ( As transcribed) 40
Elizth 40
William 12
Martha 10
Ann 8
Charles 6
Stephen 9 months
Residing Mangotsfield
Census ref HO107/377/ 17/7 / 9
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PS so wondering just who was the George Barns/Barnes if not his brother at the marriage?
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Re: Need help with a Welsh ancestor Godfrey Charles Barnes 6.11.1857 Newport
« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 16 February 16 18:33 GMT (UK) »
PS so wondering just who was the George Barns/Barnes if not his brother at the marriage?

Could he have been Luke's brother or nephew..?