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Catherine Elizabeth Hopkins born Madras India 1875
« on: Friday 29 January 16 16:10 GMT (UK) »
Not sure if this is the right board for Catherine so apologies if I have made a mistake.

I am trying to find her parents. I have her marriage certificate dated June 1898 Woolwich to Alfred Edmund Cotton. It states her father is Edward Hopkins, a private in Irish Fusiliers.

On 1911 Census Catherine is with Alfred in Burley in Wharfedale(her name is given as Kathleen), it gives her place of birth as Madras India. I haven't managed to find the birth yet :(

I don't know where or when Edward died or who his wife was. Any help to point me in the right direction would be much appreciated :)


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Re: Catherine Elizabeth Hopkins born Madras India 1875
« Reply #1 on: Friday 29 January 16 20:27 GMT (UK) »
In 1901 she is also shown as Kathleen  RG13 Piece 3963 Folio 104 Page 31
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Re: Catherine Elizabeth Hopkins born Madras India 1875
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 30 January 16 10:57 GMT (UK) »
Thank you CaroleW.

Her marriage certificate has her name as Catherine Elizabeth, and her death in 1959, Burley in Wharfedale she is registered as Catherine Elizabeth. So maybe Kathleen was a name the family used :-\ But then one of her daughters was called Mary Kathleen just to throw things a bit.

Have tried to search using Kathleen/Catherine birth but have had no joy on either. Both the 1901/1911 census say she was born in India, the 1911 being more specific in saying Madras, I have tried to find a birth registration there, have spent a few hours on that one ::)

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Re: Catherine Elizabeth Hopkins born Madras India 1875
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 30 January 16 23:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

You can search for free for births in India on - you have to pay to view the results, sorry I do
no have subscription to this site:-
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/british-india-office-births-and-baptisms

However there is no result for Catherine Elizabeth Hopkins born abt 1875.

Using just her christian names, 1875 born Madras you get:-

Catherine Elizabeth WOLFE.

Using National Archives, looking for info re Edward Hopkins (War Office)  WO records
there is only 1 Edward Hopkins of suitable age:-

Edward Hopkins born Leicester abt 1851  Enlisted 1870 Royal Artillery

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_st=adv&_ep=edward%20hopkins&_cr1=WO&_dss=range&_sd=1800&_ed=1899&_ro=any


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Re: Catherine Elizabeth Hopkins born Madras India 1875
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 31 January 16 17:20 GMT (UK) »
Thank you spendlove for your help. I have looked at baptisms in India on FindMyPast, used all sorts of variations on names etc. even tried to see if there were any more children born to Edward Hopkins but no joy :(

Will keep plodding on, :)

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Re: Catherine Elizabeth Hopkins born Madras India 1875
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 31 January 16 20:46 GMT (UK) »
Have also found this Edward

1871 army index
First name(s)    Edward
Last name    Hopkins
Service number    830
Rank    Private
Unit or Regiment    89th (Princess Victoria's) Regiment of Foot
HQ location    Cannanore, India
Year    1871

I think this regiment amalgamated and became the second battalion Irish Fusiliers 1881
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Re: Catherine Elizabeth Hopkins born Madras India 1875
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 31 January 16 20:57 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the info, have found an Edward Hopkins with the same number receiving a campaign medal in Sudan:

Pte Edward Hopkins
Regt. No. 830
Regt. 2nd Battalion Royal Irish Fusiliers
Campaign:Sudan 1884-1886

Maybe a little bit of progress is being made :)


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Re: Catherine Elizabeth Hopkins born Madras India 1875
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 31 January 16 21:22 GMT (UK) »
Catherine Elizabeth Wolfe mentioned previously by spendlove died 20th May 1876 Madras, of heart disease, parents John and Catherine. At least that takes her out of the equation.

Have found a marriage 14th May 1879, Rangoon between Edward Hopkins age 32, 89th PV Regiment to Catherine Foley, 28, widow. Edward's father: Michael Hopkins and Catherine's father: Charles Connor Foley. Maybe my Catherine is Edward's step daughter or maybe just clutching at straws ;D

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Re: Catherine Elizabeth Hopkins born Madras India 1875
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 31 January 16 21:38 GMT (UK) »
Got to admit I clutched at the same straw!
Do you know when she came to England?
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Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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