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Offline markheal

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William Shiach Mitchell 1895. Car crash death: true or fiction?
« on: Sunday 31 January 16 19:58 GMT (UK) »
As I don't have access to USA/CANADA records I will value help to trace WILLIAM Shiach MITCHELL 1895.

He left UK for USA IN 1927 on the pretext of looking for a residence for his British family, wife and 2 young children.

NEW YORK PASSENGER LIST:
Wm Shiach Mitchell
ARRIVAL DATE:   29 Mar 1927
BIRTH DATE:   1896
BIRTH LOCATION:   Scotland
BIRTH LOCATION OTHER:   elgin
AGE:   31
GENDER:   Male
ETHNICITY/ NATIONALITY:   Scottish
PORT OF DEPARTURE:   Liverpool, England
PORT OF ARRIVAL:   New York, New York
SHIP NAME:   Carmania

His wife Ruby re-married IN 1953 and told the story that William had been killed in a car crash.  This might have been a fiction as there are several other distortions/fibs that were told about the paternity  of one child.

At Ruby's re-marriage, she might not have declared that she had been previously married to William Shiach MITCHELL or proved that she was widowed. 

QUESTION ONE: Was William Shiach Mitchell really dead?

WILLIAM Shiach Mitchell
1895–
BIRTH: 25 NOVEMBER 1895 • 3, Academy Street, Elgin, Moray, Scotland
DEATH: DEATH NOT YET FOUND

Wife:
Ruby Kathleen Osborn
1901–1975
BIRTH 15 JUN 1901 • St Germans, SALTASH, Cornwall, United Kingdom
DEATH SEP 1975 • BIRKENHEAD Cheshire, England

Her re-marriage is also confused as Ruby Mitchell nee OSBORN and her live-in partner Edward SALACINSKI  appears to have BOTH taken the surname CLAYTON whilst living as the CLAYTON family and long before the 1954 marriage below.

Marriages Jun 1953   
CLAYTON    Edward    CLAYTON    Devon Central    7a   775   
CLAYTON    Edward    OSBORN    Devon Central    7a   775
CLAYTON    Ruby K    CLAYTON    Devon Central    7a   775    
CLAYTON    Ruby K    SALACINSKI    Devon Central    7a   775
OSBORN    Ruby K    CLAYTON    Devon Central    7a   775
OSBORN    Ruby K    SALACINSKI    Devon Central    7a   775
SALACINSKI    Edward    CLAYTON    Devon Central    7a   775
SALACINSKI    Edward    OSBORN    Devon Central    7a   775    
Source: FreeBMD.org.uk

QUESTION TWO: When and where did Edward SALACINSKI 1884-1956 come from?
It is believed that he died in an asylum. Death registered EXETER Devon.
ANSTRUTHER,Worldwide
BENNETT,
BRETT, Sligo
CARNEGIE,
CROCKFORD, Hampshire.
ELLIOT,
GAUNTLETT, Worldwide
HEAL, HEALE, HELE, Chew Magna, Somerset
HENRY, Sligo
MABEY, Dorset
O'HANLON
POPE, London docklands,
STANDERWICK, Somerset,
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Re: William Shiach Mitchell 1895. Car crash death: true or fiction?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 31 January 16 22:07 GMT (UK) »
According to the passenger ship record his final destination was Oxnard, California to meet  his Uncle Fred C. Duckman and it was to be a permanent move.

He's on line 2 of the page image). Be sure to click to the next page to see the 2nd part off the entry.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KXLW-14W

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This appears to be that Uncle in the 1930 census.

1930 census: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XCJD-HQP

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I don't see anything for him in California so far.

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Re: William Shiach Mitchell 1895. Car crash death: true or fiction?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 01 February 16 00:12 GMT (UK) »
This man has a different occupation than your fellow, but could he be a possibility?
1930 Manhattan, New York Census
Wm S Mitchell, born c1896, Scotland.  Immigrated 1927. 
Occupation:  Accountant, Motion Picture
He stated he was first married at age 24.
He was a lodger, I believe at 421 West 57th Street.
 
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: William Shiach Mitchell 1895. Car crash death: true or fiction?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 18 November 23 16:05 GMT (UK) »
William shiach Mitchell was my great grandfather. I’m researching this family as William’s son, Angus had a secret, illegitimate daughter in 1950 (my mum) any info would be great


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Re: William Shiach Mitchell 1895. Car crash death: true or fiction?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 18 November 23 16:09 GMT (UK) »
William and Ruby lived in Exeter, Devon until about 1950 then moved away with Angus. Not sure about his brother Raymond.