Thorlby children in Helpringham area 1890 to 1911

[Nigel Porter]

Hello,

The 1911 census records William Thorlby (1853 - 1934) and Eliza nee Whitworth Otter (1853 - 1935) as having had 2 children, neither living at the time.  They were married on 17th May 1890 in Helpringham and lived there and in Pointon and North Kyme.  I've checked all the records for these places on Lincs To The Past and several other sources, but I can't find a record of any Thorlby births or deaths that fit the criteria.  They were over 30 at the time of their marriage, so I expected births in the early 90's.  Can anyone find the children?

Thanks in anticipation!

[groom]

Are they alone in the 1891 and 1901 census?

[keyboard86]

Hi all, I can see 3 deaths in Sleaford on FreeBMD that could be children of the couple. William in 1891 married occ Shepherd on RG12/2581/20/1
Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Hi in 1901 Pit Road, North Kyne, Sleaford

William Thurlby 47 b Helpringham
Eliza W 42 b London
Census ref RG13/3047/26/19
Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Hi in 1901 Pit Road, North Kyne, Sleaford

William Thurlby 47 b Helpringham
Eliza W 42 b London
Census ref RG13/3047/26/19
Keyboard86

So who is the married Eliza Thurlby 32 b Middx on 1891 RG12/2556/90/7?
Keyboard86

[trish1120]

Looks to me that dead has been crossed out on Census.

Cant find Baptsisms but there are these Reg Sleaford, the Reg District William/Eliza are living in 1901 Census

Birth Reg;
Elizabeth Frances S Thurlby, Sept 1892
William Frederick Thurlby, June 1893

Both Deaths are Reg June 1893;
Thurlby, Elizabeth Frances S, age 0
Thurlby, William Frederick, age 0   

Trish

[Nigel Porter]

Thanks for all the replies;

Groom - Yes they were alone in all censuses
trish 1120 - I think they are the children, so I'll need to order a certificate to prove it
keyboard 86 - no idea who Eliza Thurlby is?

Eliza Whitworth Otter was born in Scrattage Middlesex, where here father was working at the time, but I've no idea why he was there, as he spent most of his life in Lincolnshire and Scrattage is a long way from there.  It's now gone and is under Heathrow.

[keyboard86]

Hi again, the one in 1891 aged 32 b c 1859  Middlesex is with an Otter family?
Keyboard86

EDIT to help out she is with a Frederick William Otter who married a Martha Ainger June qtr 1889 Bourn 7a 671, Eliza shown as Sister

[trish1120]

Baptism;
THURLBY, Elizabeth Frances Sabina, 16 Oct 1892, St Barthlomew, Welby, Lincs
Parents EDWARD/ELIZABETH
Abode Sleafford
Fathers Occp Labourer
(Source FreeREG)


So not a Child of William/Elizabeth.

They have another Child Carrington 1886. I looked for him on Census and found Edward Thurlby was born c 1861 Leasingham, Lincolnshire.

The 1890 Marriage of William/Eliza is on FreeREG also.