Author Topic: Brickwall, Searching for Kezia Woodward of Cubbington, Warwickshire, England  (Read 8145 times)

Offline JPGunn

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 11
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Brickwall, Searching for Kezia Woodward of Cubbington, Warwickshire, England
« Reply #45 on: Thursday 03 August 17 05:57 BST (UK) »
Another source-

This thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=518305.0
has

All Uppingham Parish

William Allin bapt. 15 August 1749 parents Henry and Elizabeth.  He had a  number of siblings including:

Henry Allin bapt 18 May 1745

Henry Allin married Elizabeth Harding on 28 December 1769.  They had several children.

William Allin married Mary Pomerede on 26 September 1771

children
John Allin bapt. 10 May 1773  father William
William bapt. 26 May 1774 parents William and Mary
Mary bapt. 18 December 1775 parents William and Mary
Susanna bapt. 17 November 1777 parents William and Mary
Henry bapt. 5 June 1779 parents William and Mary
Benjamin bapt. 26 January 1786 parents William and Mary
Joseph bapt. 29 October 1788 parents William and Mary

from Crowboy

Offline JPGunn

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 11
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Brickwall, Searching for Kezia Woodward of Cubbington, Warwickshire, England
« Reply #46 on: Thursday 03 August 17 16:33 BST (UK) »
Another piece to the puzzle.

In Belton, Mary Allin, daughter of William  and  Mary, was baptised 25 Nov 1777.

Rutland baptisms Transcription
First name(s)    Mary
Last name    Allin
Birth year    1777
Baptism year    1777
Baptism date    25 Nov 1777
Baptism place    Belton
Denomination    Anglican
Father's first name(s)    William
Mother's first name(s)    Mary
County    Rutland
Country    England
Archive    Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester & Rutland
Archive reference    DE1785/4

Offline lotsahunters

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 56
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Brickwall, Searching for Kezia Woodward of Cubbington, Warwickshire, England
« Reply #47 on: Monday 07 August 17 00:29 BST (UK) »
Can anyone find out more about this death. I'm wondering if there's an age and parents listed.
Thanks!!

Name:   Mary Allin
Gender:   Female
Burial Date:   25 May 1820
Burial Place:   Bisbrook, Rutland, England
FHL Film Number:   1999555
Reference ID:   item 4 n 25

Offline JPGunn

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 11
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Brickwall, Searching for Kezia Woodward of Cubbington, Warwickshire, England
« Reply #48 on: Monday 07 August 17 00:42 BST (UK) »
Looking at the image
No 25
Name -  Mary Allen (not clear if it is an "e" or an "i". but looks more like an "e")
Abode - Bisbrook
When buried - 1820 May 26th
Age - 76
By whom the ceremony was performed - S T? Bloomfield


I expect this is Mary (Green) Allin, and that the 1783 death is someone else.


Offline JPGunn

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 11
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Brickwall, Searching for Kezia Woodward of Cubbington, Warwickshire, England
« Reply #49 on: Monday 07 August 17 01:04 BST (UK) »
Have you found anything on Mary (Allin) and William Woodward?

I was exploring the idea that the rest of the family went (returned?) to Warwickshire after Hannah's marraige in 1824.

I found an 1836 burial of a Mary Woodward, age 62, in Wolfhampcote, Warwickshire.

I also found an 1841 census  listing for William Woodward, (nominally) age 70, in Flecknor, Wolfhampcote, Rugby, Warwickshire, England, born Warwickshire,  and a subsequent death (Rugby registration district) in 1843.

Do you think that might be them?

Offline lotsahunters

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 56
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Brickwall, Searching for Kezia Woodward of Cubbington, Warwickshire, England
« Reply #50 on: Monday 07 August 17 03:16 BST (UK) »
I believe John died shortly after Mary, assuming she died in 1783. I have his death as 29 November 1783 Bisbrooke, Rutlandshire, England. However, I don't have actual records, just an index. Why do you think the 1783 death is someone else? 

Kezia Woodward Steel and possibly her brother James Woodward are the only two children found near Cubbington. I believe Mary's Allin Woodward's burial was 22 Mar 1816 Uppingham, Rutlandshire, England. Once again, only going from an index. If you read the post before, you'll see I was mistaken and mixed families. Her youngest child would have been 6 at the time of her death. The oldest and youngest child are found in Uppington. William is found in Flecknoe, however, it isn't clear if he's really Kezia's brother as the naming pattern is way off. The 1843 death can't be his as he's found up until the 1881 Census.
I do have the elder William Woodward attached to the census you mention, but didn't have the death date. It makes sense that he was living near his son, if the younger William is his son. We should probably flip pages and see how close they are to each other in the census. 
I cannot find any of the other children. I wonder if the children became a burden on the parish and were farmed out to relatives or as servants. However, I have no idea how to search the poorhouse records to see if the children or William was there. In the 1841 census William is listed as a Ag laborer, but we don't know if that was his occupation or just due to his age. Perhaps a view at the actual marriage record, or the children's christening records would give us more insight, especially if they list an occupation. 

Offline lotsahunters

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 56
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Brickwall, Searching for Kezia Woodward of Cubbington, Warwickshire, England
« Reply #51 on: Monday 07 August 17 03:18 BST (UK) »

Henry Allen/Allin and Elizabeth Stimpson/Stimson are my 6th great grandparents

1. Janet is the daughter of Freda Elizabeth (Pilcher) Gunn
2. Freda is the daughter of Wilda Emily (Brown) Pilcher
3. Wilda is the daughter of Fred Brown
4. Fred is the son of Hannah (Naylor) Welsh
5. Hannah is the daughter of Hannah (Woodward) Nailor
6. Hannah is the daughter of Mary (Allin) Woodward
7. Mary is the daughter of William Allin
8. William is the son of Henry Allin


Henry Allin and Elizabeth Stimpson are my 5x great grandparents:

1. Becky is the daughter of Beth Jordan and Garth Porter
2. Beth is the daughter of Hilda Jane Armstrong and Alfred Edwin Jordan
3. Hilda Jane is the daughter of Anna Keziah Thacker and Robert Armstrong
4. Anna Keziah is the daughter of Sarah Steel and Richard Thacker
5. Sarah is the daughter of Kezia Woodward and William Steel
6. Kezia is the daughter of Mary Allin and William Woodward
6. Mary is the daughter of John Allin and Mary Green
7. John Allin is the son of Henry Allin and Elizabeth Stimpson
8. Henry Allin is likely the son of Joseph Allin and Mary

LynBow I would love to have any information you have.

Thanks!

Offline lotsahunters

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 56
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Brickwall, Searching for Kezia Woodward of Cubbington, Warwickshire, England
« Reply #52 on: Monday 07 August 17 03:23 BST (UK) »
One more possibility I have been unable to follow is that there was a Woodward clergy or something near Cubbington and Kezia may not belong to this family at all, she may be the daughter of a religious leader. 

Offline lotsahunters

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 56
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Brickwall, Searching for Kezia Woodward of Cubbington, Warwickshire, England
« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 08 August 17 03:53 BST (UK) »
Do you think this could be something different than Lucy?
=m&cp=0&catbucket=r&uidh=000&pid=MWJJ-K4M&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&h=2686263&dbid=9198&indiv=1&ml_rpos=2

Can anyone tell me more about this death?
Mary Woodward 12 Mar 1855 Uppingham, Ruttland, England