Trying to find out about parents of John William Holden(b1849)

[benhc123]

Hi,

John William Holden (b1849) was an organ builder later in his life. I really want to see if I can find any parents grandparents for him though. I know his parents could be William Holden and Elizabeth Buttery from his birth certificate, but I'm struggling to find anything above them in the tree. John William was born in Lincoln.

Here is John William in 1851 Census:
Household schedule number:   75
Piece:   2105
Folio:   594
Page Number:   20

William Holden was born abt.1823.
Elizabeth Buttery was born abt.1822.

Might someone be able to track down some of their parents?

Thanks!

[Geoff-E]

If you think William's birthplace was Barton, there is this baptism

http://freereg2.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5510dddde9379002710688c5?search_id=56c2f8c0791e3bf1950000ef

[Geoff-E]

Marriage 12 Dec 1843 at Carlton le Moorland
William HOLDEN (son of John) to Elizabeth BUTTERY (dau of John)

Marriages Dec 1843
BUTTERY    Elizabeth        Newark    15   1055   
Holden    William        Newark    15   1055

If you look for Lucy HOLDEN aged 4 in 1851, you'll find her with her BUTTERY grandparents.

[benhc123]

That looks right. I do think he was born in Barton based on census. Thank you.
I'll check out their marriage too.

Thanks! I'd never have found that myself.

[benhc123]

Actually, I'm not certain he was born in Barton. I think it's quite far away?

[benhc123]

If you think William's birthplace was Barton, there is this baptism

http://freereg2.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5510dddde9379002710688c5?search_id=56c2f8c0791e3bf1950000ef

That search doesn't show in my browser. What did you search for?

[benhc123]

Actually, I'm not certain he was born in Barton. I think it's quite far away?

No, sorry, he was! 

[Geoff-E]

http://freereg2.freereg.org.uk/

Search for William HOULDEN 1822 Lincs Baptism

It's also here https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N6ZB-QRS

Register is here (top left) http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=514757&iid=40922

[forte]

A possible for parents of Elizabeth Buttery (ma Wm Holden of Barton)

1841 cen   The Black Horse Carlton le Moorland Newark Notts
Sarah Buttery ag 60 Nurse
John Buttery Ag Lab aged 60
Mary Buttery  b 1816 aged 25 - relationship given but poss dau?

1851cen  Carlton le Moorland
John Buttery age 70 Pauper Ag Lab b Kelham Notts
Sarah wi age 59 b Brant Broughton Lincs
Ann dau age 25 b Norton Disney (as was Elizabeth who married Wm Holden=Norton Disney is close to Newark))
Lucy HOLDEN vis age 4 b St Martin Lincoln

William Holden is shown as a tailor in 1851

There is certainly a relationship as Lucy Holden is with them.
Hope this helps.

Best of luck.