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The Eslers Where are they??
« on: Saturday 20 February 16 10:36 GMT (UK) »
I though I would take advantage of the freebie being offered to try and find where an elusive branch of my tree has been hiding before 1891 but I am even more confused now than ever.

I have:

Census 1901  Elizabeth Esler Widow  age 53 with Edward Rumsey son-in-law and daughter Mina relation to head of house Mother in Law in Brown Street Macclesfield

Census 1891 Elizabeth Esler is Head of House aged 43 Married with daughters Isabella Johnson and Mina (where is father) in Bond Street Macclesfield employed as a gimp weaver.

from there they disappear

I see that Isabella was born in Belfast Ireland and Mina was born in Macclesfield.
Elizabeth gives her birthplace as Macclesfield.

When did she go to Ireland, I assume she must have married there as the first child was born there.  I have her maiden name as Marron, can't find where I got that from but think I may be wrong considering her daughters middle name of Johnson. I also think Elizabeth's husbands name was John  (in a move a box of my research got water damaged so I am taking this info from my online tree)

I would be happy just to find them in a census as a family and confirm Elizabeth's maiden name. I have got myself so muddled and the results I am getting are not helping...not much from Ireland
Paylet, Pallatt, Morris (Russia, UK) Burke, Hillery, Page, Rumsey, Stevens, Tyne/Thynne(UK)  Landman, van Rooyen, Tyne, Stevens, Rumsey, Visagie, Nell (South Africa)

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Re: The Eslers Where are they??
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 20 February 16 11:11 GMT (UK) »
The Irish births on Ancestry give the birth of Isabella Esler 8/10/1871 to John and Elizabeth nee Merrion. Also James Samuel born 17/10/1870 to John and Elizabeth nee Merion
Clotworthy, McMahon, Saunderson, Culley (Ireland & Scotland)
Weatherall, Greer (Ireland & Scotland)
Hamilton, Johnston, Dawson, Rennie, Wright (Clackmannanshire)

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Re: The Eslers Where are they??
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 20 February 16 11:13 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that, let me have another look.

I get myself into such a muddle I don't know what I'm looking at ::) :-\ ;D
Paylet, Pallatt, Morris (Russia, UK) Burke, Hillery, Page, Rumsey, Stevens, Tyne/Thynne(UK)  Landman, van Rooyen, Tyne, Stevens, Rumsey, Visagie, Nell (South Africa)

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Re: The Eslers Where are they??
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 20 February 16 11:39 GMT (UK) »
John and Elizabeth appear to have married on 15th April 1870 in Belfast. You would be able to view the certificate on the NIdirect website.
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Clotworthy, McMahon, Saunderson, Culley (Ireland & Scotland)
Weatherall, Greer (Ireland & Scotland)
Hamilton, Johnston, Dawson, Rennie, Wright (Clackmannanshire)


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Re: The Eslers Where are they??
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 20 February 16 11:51 GMT (UK) »

Thanks, do you need a subscription for that???

I thought she may have gone to Ireland, but can't help wondering why??

Paylet, Pallatt, Morris (Russia, UK) Burke, Hillery, Page, Rumsey, Stevens, Tyne/Thynne(UK)  Landman, van Rooyen, Tyne, Stevens, Rumsey, Visagie, Nell (South Africa)

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Re: The Eslers Where are they??
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 20 February 16 11:53 GMT (UK) »
You can sign up for free and use the indices but you need to purchase credits to view certificates. Bit like Scotlandspeople.
Clotworthy, McMahon, Saunderson, Culley (Ireland & Scotland)
Weatherall, Greer (Ireland & Scotland)
Hamilton, Johnston, Dawson, Rennie, Wright (Clackmannanshire)

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Re: The Eslers Where are they??
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 20 February 16 11:57 GMT (UK) »
Was Mina actually Jemima?

Birth
Apr/May/Jun 1873
Macclesfield
8a 144
Jemima Esler

Her birth cert would confirm mums maiden name
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: The Eslers Where are they??
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 20 February 16 12:10 GMT (UK) »
For the 1870 marriage- John Johnston Esler, son of Thomas, to Elizabeth Merrion, daughter of John. Full details will be on the certificate.

Thought others might be researching the family- but numerous online trees show John Johnston Esler (1850 Ballymena, Antrim, Ireland-1917 Dartford, Kent, England) married (1874 England) to Elizabeth Jane Anthoney  :-\
http://www.geneilytreemaker.genealogy.com/forum/regional/countries/topics/ireland/38327/
boards.ancestry.ca/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=28&p=surnames.esler
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: The Eslers Where are they??
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 20 February 16 12:30 GMT (UK) »
Was Mina actually Jemima?

Birth
Apr/May/Jun 1873
Macclesfield
8a 144
Jemima Esler

Her birth cert would confirm mums maiden name


Yes but she appears as Mina everywhere even on the census that I have

For the 1870 marriage- John Johnston Esler, son of Thomas, to Elizabeth Merrion, daughter of John. Full details will be on the certificate

So that is where the "Johnson" comes from I assume.  Starting to make sense and come together.
Paylet, Pallatt, Morris (Russia, UK) Burke, Hillery, Page, Rumsey, Stevens, Tyne/Thynne(UK)  Landman, van Rooyen, Tyne, Stevens, Rumsey, Visagie, Nell (South Africa)