The Eslers Where are they??

[trish1120]

1851 Census
Park Street,
Macclesfield, Cheshire
HO107/2160/381/7
John Marion, 67, Head, Mar,  Silk Twister, born Ireland*
Ann Marion, 46, Wife, Mar, Silk Twister, born Ireland
Edward Marion, 21, Son, Silk Twister, born Manchester, Lancashire
Harriet Marion, 19, Daug, No Work, born Manchester
Rebecca Marion, 17, Daug, Silk Twister, born Manchester
James Marion, 9, Son, Scholar
Isabella Marion, 7, Daug
ELIZABETH Marion, 4, Daug, born Manchester, Lancashire  (sic)"
Hellery Marron, 1, Son
Edward Niel, 24, Lodger

***All younger Children born Macclesfield, Cheshire on image.
Anc has it as Manchester, Cheshire

Given her age Ann may be a second Wife.

Trish

EDIT, there is a line through Johns age and it may be 47, so Ann may be his only Wife.

Will see if I can find them in 1841

[trish1120]

Christenings,
Collegiate Church, Manchester, Lancashire, England
All on same day 24 Nov 1833
Edward/Rebecca/Harriot MARRON, Parents JOHN/ANN

1841 Census
Macclesfield, Cheshire
HO107/132/9/Macclesfield
John Marron, 36, Twister, born Ireland
Anne Marron, 30, born Ireland
Marianne Marron, 13
Edward Marron, 11
Harriet Marron, 9
Rebecca Marron, 7
Thomas Marron, 3
John Marron, 9mths
All Children not born in County

[isobelw]

Elizabeth appears to be living alone with her two daughters in Macclesfield from 1881 onwards ( transcribed as Elizabeth Ester in 1881 and 1901). From 1901 on she is described as widowed. Everything points to It being the same John Johnson Esler who married both women!
Isobel

[3sillydogs]

Interesting, so he would have been married to Elizabeth and Ann?? Am I getting this right???

I did note that in 1891 she was still listed as married with the two daughters but by 1901 she is widowed and living with son in law

[isobelw]

Both women were called Elizabeth.(1) Elizabeth Merrion and (2) Elizabeth Jane Anthony
Isobel

[3sillydogs]

I just found that record on Family Search, is he my John Johnston??

Do I have my first bigamist???

If he was, clever man to have wives with the same name

[aghadowey]

The 1874 English marriage also lists his father as Thomas 

Might help to compare details on both marriage certificates and census records to see how well occupations match up.

[3sillydogs]

They seem to have been silk workers, but I haven't managed to find Elizabeth, Isabella and Mina on a census with their father as yet. The first I see them is in 1891 and she is on her own with the two girls.
Were they perhaps in Ireland up til then???

His occupation on  the 1901 with the "other" Elizabeth is an engineers clerk

[3sillydogs]

I have found her on the 1881 in Macclesfield with Isabella and Mina (Jemima) but doing the same search for John don't find him in Macclesfield

I have found a death for an Elizabeth Esler reg Apr/May/Jun 1933 Macclesfield aged 85.  Must  be my Elizabeth.

If she married in 1870 and Isabella born 1871 in Ireland I would assume she would still have been with John, perhaps he vanished sometime after that and she came home to Macclesfield pregnant, deserted to have  Mina in 1873.  Have looked everywhere and still can't see them as a family anywhere. Perhaps he did have two families..