John Murtagh 1880 Westmeath

[Sinann]

I was trying to find a death notice for Ellen as it's quite recent but no luck so far.

[dathai]

John Murtagh 1940
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FT2R-22R

how strange mother Daly
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPT8-P6J

[dathai]

Owen Murtagh
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYGQ-T6K
Helen Murphy ?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYGQ-66P

[Sinann]

how strange mother Daly
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPT8-P6J

All look good, that Daly name will haunt me.

This family is looking great now but we still haven't found anything solid to fix Kathleen to them.
I wonder if her death cert would help.
Need to check the first thread for that.

[Sinann]

As yes we had a problem with her death as well

The difficulty seems to be the double t in Watters, Waters is more usual so I think the double t handwritten knocks people off their stride.
As here https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F1WF-HQ6
This is more than likely Margaret but as Waters.

With that in mind there are two possible deaths in Dublin South
Kathleen Waters age 47 in 1943
Catherine Waters age 36 in 1945

If she was born 1908 the second one would be the more likely.

[CathyD59]

Yes Margaret would have been Kathleen and John's daughter my mums sister, and Catherine Watters was Kathleen, not too sure about Owen and Helen unless there was another child called John who married a Masie/Mary.

[CathyD59]

I'm confused did Joh Murtagh 1878/80 marry a woman with the same last name as his mother

[Sinann]

I'm confused did Joh Murtagh 1878/80 marry a woman with the same last name as his mother

We don't know for sure that Mary his wife was Daly but if she was than yes he did.

[Sinann]

Yes Margaret would have been Kathleen and John's daughter my mums sister, and Catherine Watters was Kathleen, not too sure about Owen and Helen unless there was another child called John who married a Masie/Mary.

Helen and Ellen are like Kathleen and Catherine, pretty much interchangeable so that marriage looks good for Owen and Ellen.

Could John have been a cousin of Kathleen's but the children thought he was their uncle.
Or my constant fear, we have the wrong family.