TROVE and a petition re its funding.

[DavidG02]

No you have to push 6 buttons.

My point was you should let people know on this forum if a link has any further activity added to it.

From RC Terms and Conditions

14. Use the site or content for any commercial use, or make posts on the Forum that enlists the help of others for commercial use with or without their knowledge of its intended use without approval from us.

[Neil Todd]

Oh gees David, how pedantic!! There is no commercial use it's just a petition to save funding for the NLA, get a grip man.

Neil

[DavidG02]

I was happy to sign the petition but I had NO intention on joining or signing on to receive emails from Change.

By clicking the link I had no choice but to receive emails- just because it is deemed by you a ''good site'' doesn't make its hacking any less. If I posted a link that took you to a site where you automatically received Liberal or Labor emails   would have you responding in kind.

[Neil Todd]

Good Morning david

Here's the link again.
https://www.change.org/p/malcolm-turnbull-mp-stop-cuts-to-national-library-of-australia-save-trove

But be warned by David, you may have to press your left mouse button six times To stop receiving emails re possibly worthy petitions.

Neil.

[majm]

Hi there,

I did not start this thread with any intention to cause anyone to ever consider it, or any of the posts added to it would ever breach/infringe any of the T&C for RChatters.     I have signed petitions via Change.org and I have not received unsolicited emails.   

If I may mention ........

  I have just re-read their Privacy Statement. Here's the live link.  https://www.change.org/policies/privacy#3   

  I have also read the following about their business model  https://www.change.org/about/our-business     

And as a former Exec. Cttee Mbr for various family history groups, from as early as the late 1960s ..... (so back when volunteering meant you even took along your own cup, and a plate of food for supper, and took it in turns to bring the milk, the tea, the sugar ....)  For decades and decades there have been (and still are) similar incorporated entities within corporations laws in each of the eight jurisdictions here in Australia.  They are usually referred to as the 'not for profits' and/or the 'incorporated associations' and there are many Australian Public Companies that in fact are not set up as commercial businesses and were established in the 1920s, and are still the governing bodies for many of the district/regional/ not for profits.

Anyway ..... To me, we should be working towards supporting the National Library of Australia, and in particular we should be working towards urging the on-going public funding of Trove.   Its benefits extend far beyond any one person's family history, or beyond any sporting body's weekly sports results, or beyond any PhD student's Thesis.   It's newspaper publications date from 1803, and that is LESS THAN ONE GENERATION OF BRITISH SETTLEMENT, so it is a unique resource available to the world, the written history of a sovereign nation.   It took until 1986 for Australia to formally receive its complete legal separation from Britain.  And all of the steps along the way are documented in the daily newspapers that are (or are about to be) digitised at Trove.   

You don't need to be an Australian to be interested in following and researching the written history from a penal settlement to nationhood, from Pre-Industrial Revolution to International Space Station,  .....    Trove's digitising the history of this planet's smallest continent from 1803 

Surely our current Federal Parliament can find some Efficiency Dividends from among its own ranks of elected officials to fund Trove.

Cheers,  JM
   

[Ruskie]

Well said JM. 

It is easy to forget that we often refer researchers from other parts of the world to Trove too.

I suppose it is the nature of the internet but in some ways it is a shame that we can't just sign a petition without having to read t&cs/privacy policies and possibly receive emails pressuring us to  sign other petitions, worthy though they all are. There should be an option to opt in to receive emails about other petitions rather than having to opting out. It is the same with anything we sign up for on the internet these days. I don't like it, but I suppose we will just have to get used to it.

I am hoping for a good outcome but I fear this funding will not be a priority for our politicians or Joe Public. I suspect funding will gradually tail off and go largely unnoticed. If anyone hears anything positive or otherwise, please let us know.

[Voltaire1694]

It is worth a try, but if the politicians have decided this is where they want to make cuts, then that is what they will do.

The Government (ie politicians) determines there will be cuts (eg through the Efficiency Dividend). It would be up to the NLA executive (Director-General) and, perhaps, its governing board (the Library Council) as to where those cuts come from.

[majm]

Some further reading :

http://www.gouldgenealogy.com/2016/03/fundtrove-show-support-national-library-australia-trove/

noting

https://www.alia.org.au/peak-bodies-advocate-trove

http://discontents.com.au/fundtrove/

Cheers,  JM

[judb]

Sometimes a direct approach can add to a petition and lend further weight.  The NLA has a "Feedback" form on their website so a private communication may help if enough people express their dismay.

http://www.nla.gov.au/feedback

Some good suggestions for other communications on the Gould genealogy site linked by JM on the post above.

Judith