Brick wall anyone? HUNTER & DEVLIN

[mollipops1]

Brilliant, thanks Judith!

I found the 1894 death this morning, and confirmed it from memorium notices from daughter Isabella (another grandmother naming!)

What is weird is no trace of births to them as Devlin in NSW for the 3 daughters (Elizabeth, Isabella and Mary).

[mollipops1]

Found the marriage of John & Margaret (as McKAY) in Glasgow in Feb 1848 on Scotlands People.

Couldn't see her parents marriage but possible for father in Glasgow in 1851 Census shows his birthplace as Ireland.

Progress

[judb]

Seems to me that this is a good birth match for Mary DEVLIN, given that her father had a business there and that her birthplace is given as Hill End which is ony 4.5k away.

NSW 1856   #7982 registered at TAMBAROORA
Mary A DEVLIN   
Parents: John, Margaret

Possibly Isabella:
NSW  178/1848 V1848178 59   
Isobella (sic) DEVLIN   
Parents: John, Margaret.

FamilySearch has this:
Isabella DEVLIN
Christening Place   St. James, Cumberland, New South Wales, Australia
Birth Date and Place:   11 Mar 1848, New South Wales, Australia
Parents: John Devlin, Margaret

Not sure about the date unless it's been copied incorrectly or perhaps Isabella may have been born at sea or before they left and was registered and baptised in NSW.      I didn't look at the whole shipping list to see if there were any births on board.

Judith

Just adding the In Memoriam reference in case anyone else is looking
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/14061226

[judb]

Excellent obit with lots of info for Elizabeth SWANN (nee DEVLIN), died 1940 aged 86 - born at Sofala in 1854. Interesting to note that Elizabeth and her husband William SWANN bought and renovated historic Elizabeth Farm House in North Parramatta, thus saving it from dereliction.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/106207087

Can't see a birth registration for her though.

Judith

[mollipops1]

Thanks Judith! Yes the SWANN family are very interesting. They had 9 daughters and 2 sons and from what I can find, none of the daughters married - all were teachers (like their father). From what I have read, the house was pretty much derelict when William bought it and considered worthless, so he only paid land value.

He died not long after but his wife and daughters all lived their lives out at Elizabeth Farm and it was sold to the National Trust in the 1960s. It is now a tourist attraction.

That birth looks interesting. If she was born in 1856 she definitely lied about her age!

[mollipops1]

Possibly Isabella:
NSW  178/1848 V1848178 59   
Isobella (sic) DEVLIN   
Parents: John, Margaret.

FamilySearch has this:
Isabella DEVLIN
Christening Place   St. James, Cumberland, New South Wales, Australia
Birth Date and Place:   11 Mar 1848, New South Wales, Australia
Parents: John Devlin, Margaret

Not sure about the date unless it's been copied incorrectly or perhaps Isabella may have been born at sea or before they left and was registered and baptised in NSW.      I didn't look at the whole shipping list to see if there were any births on board.

Judith

Just realised they did not arrive in NSW until Dec 1848 though she did marry in 1868 so agewise that does fit. Odd. (If she was born in Scotland in March 1848, it was a month after her parents married!)

[majm]

NSW ER 1878 THE LACHLAN
In the Grenfell Police District.   NO others listed with that surname.
Henry Hope HUNTER, free hold, Seven-mile.

Grevilles PO Directory 1875
GRENFELL
Henry H HUNTER, blacksmith, Church Hill.



Cheers,  JM

[Lat58]

I thought you might like some information regarding Rebecca Hunter nee "Cowen". She was the only child of Robert Abraham Cohen and Mary Daly. I have been unable to find out what happened to Mary Daly but Robert went on to marry Margaret Kidd at Scots Church Sydney. They had 5 children. Robert moved around a bit corresponding with some of the places mentioned in the above posts, Young and Wellington but finally settled in Mudgee where he opened a hairdressing business. The Cohens were very well known in Mudgee with one of Rebecca's half brothers Lawrence been mayor and another George Henry establishing the Mudgee Guardian newspaper which is still operating today. Robert was a convict sentence to 14 years and arrived in the colony in 1821 aboard the Grenada2.  His crime was passing false banknotes. You can find records in the Old Bailey London archives. Robert was Jewish and he is the only Jewish headstone in Mudgee Cemetery.
Interesting that Rebecca changed the spelling of her name at some time.
BTW Robert Abraham Cohen was my Great Great Grandfather.

Cheers Jane

[Terry_at_NZ]

John Devlin had a daughter, "Mrs W. Swann".
Is this her?
http://sydneylivingmuseums.com.au/stories/if-these-walls-could-talk-spring-2014
https://explorerstree.com/2016/06/23/from-bowning-to-elizabeth-farm-parramatta-nsw/
http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/longworth-isabel-frances-10859

Terry