Baptism of Edgar Spooner, circa 1815

[Griff King-Spooner]

reading with interest the comments on Edgar Spooner King it leads me to the question of his son Thomas born circa.1856 who shows on different forms to have been born either in Wicklow Ireland or Clerkenwell London can anyone shed some light? 

[trish1120]

I havent looked at your other query on Michael but noted these on FreeREG;

Marriages;
St Martin, Colchester, Essex

02 Mar 1783, Joseph SPOONER to Mary KNOPP, Licence. He signed, she used mark (does not say widr)
09 Jul 1786, Joseph SPOONER, Bachelor to Mary KING, Spinster. He signed, she used mark.
Grooms Parish St Botolphs**



Burial same Church;
10 Jul 1785, MARY Spooner, no extra details

Baptisms same Church;
29 Jul 1787 JOSEPH Spooner
09 May 1790 JAMES Spooner (birth 22 Nov 1788)
Parents JOSEPH/MARY

I noted your Michael Thomas was christened St Mary the Virgin at the Walls (+ siblings) on Familysearch.Org.

Just noting as there were 2 Joseph/Marys having children in same time frame in Essex.

[Griff King-Spooner]

thanks for your help.......possibly Mary King could be a forebear as no one in the family can pinpoint the origin of the family surname King-Spooner (I've updated my family tree with a question mark) thanks again

[Griff King-Spooner]

I was recently contacted by a distant and most helpful relative who has supplied details of the last years of Edgar (who now just used Edgar King as his name), apparently after the death of his 3rd wife he emigrated to Auckland, New Zealand on the 2nd January 1882 arriving on the ship "Wellington", he was followed there later by some of his children, Mary, Francis and Theresa. He started work by opening a small Sarsaparilla drinks store which was viewed back then as a health tonic before returning to his earlier trade of tailor/cutter, he died tragically in 1884 in his 72nd year after falling off the Otakia bridge over the river Taieri subsequently drowning, he was on his way to meet his family prior to catching a ship back to Auckland....

[Viv 30]

Hi, can I add to this discussion?  I'm the distant relative referred to above.  My line is from Michael Thomas Spooner's brother, Joseph Adams Spooner, born 17 April 1789, Colchester; married Mary Newby of Shenfield on 20 October 1812, St Magnus the Martyr and St Margaret Fish Street Hill, London. Mary died a widow at Ingatestone in 1856; Joseph was a sea captain/master mariner who disappears from Lloyd's shipping records about 1828. These two were my paternal 3x Gr Grandparents.  I'm trying to establish who Michael and Joseph's parents were - Joseph Spooner and Mary ....... Knopp, King?  I have small segment DNA matches to 2 descendants of Edgar Spooner-King or King-Spooner.  Apart from what's already been discussed in previous postings on this subject, are there any other suggestions to help identify Michael and Joseph's parents? 

[jbml]

Viv -

If you message me, I can give you everything I've got on the King-Spooner line (which is quite a lot), including a full account of how the King-Spooner name came about.

It's taken a LOT of work, and a massive amount of collaboration with other family members to tie all the pieces together ... but we're pretty much there now on the lines that we're jointly researching.

[trish1120]

Viv 30 need two more posts before you can PM one another.
And welcome to Rootchat Viv.

Trish 

[Viv 30]

If you are the person liaising with Griff then I have your contact details.  If not, my mistake.  I'd be very pleased to learn more about the King Spooner or Spooner King family line.   I descend from another branch of the family and am trying to trace back beyond Michael Thomas Spooner and his brother Joseph Adams Spooner.

[jbml]

I am indeed, Viv.

I have your e-mail, and have replied with full extracts from my family notes, on all the ancestors I have been able to identify from Edgar Spooner (alias King, alias King-Spooner) back up the line.