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Re: GAY FAMILY - CRAIL AND BEYOND
« Reply #9 on: Friday 08 April 16 19:14 BST (UK) »
James Thomas Wilson Gay not correct James is it  :-\ Just seen this birth entry for him https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY1V-8RD

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Re: GAY FAMILY - CRAIL AND BEYOND
« Reply #10 on: Friday 08 April 16 19:24 BST (UK) »
Re Captain Alexander Gay, an entry here:

Wednesday 13 November 1861 ,  Dundee Advertiser ,  Angus, Scotland


Newcastle Courant
NORTH SHIELDS
“... was seen to co down with the three men, and all 7 are supposed to have'perfahed. The boat belonged to the Mary, of Crail, Captain Gay. The boat washed on shore on ...

Friday 08 November 1861 ,  Newcastle Courant ,  Tyne and Wear, England

Lots of other entries around this time in newspapers of that time.

I don't have a subs unfortunately to www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/

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Re: GAY FAMILY - CRAIL AND BEYOND
« Reply #11 on: Friday 08 April 16 19:37 BST (UK) »

...I noticed on Alexanders grave stone that he was 47 years old.    I have him as being born in 1826 (Isabella was born in 1816) this would mean that he married at 16???? Doubts creep in when I see this although all his childrens MCs and DCs are correct with parents.


Have you come across this before https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F16C-RJS  Banns to the marriage given the reference to 'intended marriage'?

Alexander and Isabella both show on this index as 21 in 1842. I think however what this means on the original cert will be that both the bride and groom were of full age (ie over 21).

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Re: GAY FAMILY - CRAIL AND BEYOND
« Reply #12 on: Friday 08 April 16 19:48 BST (UK) »
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they were married on 12 Jan 1842, no ages given.    There is an OPR entry for him with correct parents as baptism and birth on 15 Sep 1826?   Could he have been born in 1814 as gravestone gives with age 47? and been baptised 12 years later?????????


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Re: GAY FAMILY - CRAIL AND BEYOND
« Reply #13 on: Friday 08 April 16 20:00 BST (UK) »
What detail do you have for his birth/christening and parents?

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ADDED: Who were Isabella Anderson's parents? Was in an Alexander Anderson and wife Janet Brown?
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Re: GAY FAMILY - CRAIL AND BEYOND
« Reply #14 on: Friday 08 April 16 20:07 BST (UK) »
The Newspaper articles report that the ship, a sloop, was lost off Hartlepool in a gale. The crew lost numbered four, the Captain Gay , who belongs to this place (ie Crail), his son ( a young boy), another young person, belonging here and the other from the Highlands. The ship was washed ashore at Seaton Sands.

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Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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Re: GAY FAMILY - CRAIL AND BEYOND
« Reply #15 on: Friday 08 April 16 20:17 BST (UK) »
Thanks, William. I read a snippet from one of the entries that no bodies were recovered. May explain why there is no English death cert. for Alexander Gay.

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Re: GAY FAMILY - CRAIL AND BEYOND
« Reply #16 on: Friday 08 April 16 20:23 BST (UK) »
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OPR entry for birth of Alexander gives parents as William Gay and Ann Paterson.    Isabellas parents are given on her DC as yes Alexander Anderson and Janet Brown

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Re: GAY FAMILY - CRAIL AND BEYOND
« Reply #17 on: Friday 08 April 16 20:26 BST (UK) »
There is a Masters and mates cert for an Alexander Gay from Crail with dob 16 Nov 1813 issued in Dundee in 1851-  the record lists all his vessels from 1830, when he was an Ordinary Seaman, until 1851 when he was master of the Mary (name not clear but I think that is what it says).

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Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)