William Taylor, Elizabeth Ward. Derbyshire. Staffordshire. Warwickshire.

[AnneToday]

Hi,
Elizabeth Ward, 1799, Polesworth, Warwickshire married William Taylor, 1808, from Derbyshire.  Does anyone have details of either of these marriages, please, e.g. ages, parents or condition of the couple (spinster or widow etc.) so I can accept or eliminate it from my Tree.  A Stafford connection is feasible for this couple. I can’t find a Warwickshire marriage.  The Derbyshire marriage is not necessarily the correct one.  It could even be they “married” twice to satisfy two different families or creeds.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKZW-C96      Marriage on 21st March 1831, in Rushall, Stafford.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NN8D-H6J         Marriage on 11th October 1835, in Melbourne, Derbyshire.

Thank you.

[BumbleB]

My apologies for this, but I'm very easily confused 

If you can't find an appropriate marriage then how do you know that Elizabeth Ward married William Taylor?

[BumbleB]

The Rushall marriage:

William Taylor, Bachelor of Wednesbury and Elizabeth Ward, spinster of this parish.

[AnneToday]

Yes, there is some confusion around this.  1841 and 1851 Census shows the family, with their son Henry noted as Henry Ward.  Henry is my gt gd father, registered 1838 as Henry Taylor, son of William and Elizabeth.  There is also John Taylor with the family in the 1841 census; he is believed to be John Ward, Elizabeth's son, possibly illegitimate, born before her marriage to William, but claimed as part of the Taylor family in the census, which often happens in my experience.  Knowing if the bride was a spinster or widow would help this. 

Also, some of my information came to me verbally from now deceased members of my family. 

Anne

[AnneToday]

Sorry, BumbleB, I think we were posting at the same time and I missed the warning.  Thank you for the details, I think this now eliminates the Rushall, Stafford marriage as I know of no connection with the Wednesbury side of Staffordshire.

I will now concentrate on the Derby marriage to resolve the other issues.

Anne

[BumbleB]

I think you are right to concentrate on the Melbourne marriage entry - as William and Henry were born in Melbourne.  Sorry can't help with further information on this marriage.

Good luck!

[BumbleB]

Actually I may be able to help with the Melbourne marriage 

Melbourne, although in Derbyshire comes under the Diocese of Lichfield, and the Diocesan records are held in Lichfield!!  BT's for Melbourne cover the period - baptisms 1662-1869, marriages 1662-1835 and burials 1662-1852.  I'd have to check first whether those marriages are to 31 December 1835.  If they are, then I am willing to go to the Records Office (free bus pass and free time) to check the entry for possibly more information.

Let me know 

[trish1120]

Is this the 1841 Census you have?

William Taylor, 30, Labourer
Elizabeth Taylor, 40, not born in County**
John Taylor, 12
Henry Taylor, 3
Elizabeth Granger, 20
HO107/191/22/Melbourne

1851 Henry Taylor age 3 is Henry Ward age 13

John TAYLOR Christened 31 May 1831, Stanton by Bridge, Derby
Parents WILLIAM Taylor and Elizabeth GRANGER

Elizabeth Granger age 20 in 1841 seems to be Christened to FRANCIS/ELIZABETH  17 May 1819 Stanton by Bridge

Looks like William was married before? or at least had a Child with Elizabeth Granger.

[AnneToday]

Hi,
Many thanks for your help.  The 1851 Census shows William with Elizabeth, 55, born in Polesworth.   These confirm her christening in 1797/9.    I don’t understand the two entries – another mystery.Maybe the Melbourne marriage record would resolve this as well.   

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JMHJ-BHZ    = 1797

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J39R-HMT    = 1799


I’ve just found this website, does this help BumbleB?:The Index shows the 1835 marriage but does not give any more details, such as where the records are kept.   If not, then yes I would be pleased if you could go to the Records Office for me, and thank you for offering.
http://www.derbysmarriages1538-1837.co.uk/search-result/?act=new

1841 Census:  Elizabeth Granger born in 1819 Stanton by Bridge was the daughter of Francis and Elizabeth Granger.  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NGGZ-7XK 
Could she be a servant and so just a red herring, there’s so little detail on that Census.

Anne