NSW death record - Irene Brinton

[matthewj64]

Hi, I'm hoping for some help with this.

The NSW death record number 11488/1935 for Irene E Brinton has "(Aveling)" in brackets under Father's Given Name, though the information seems out of place, eg. "59 YRS SYDNEY" under Mother's Given Name.

My questions are:

1. what could it mean to have Aveling in brackets?
2. what column heading would it likely belong to if not Father's Given Name (eg.Mother's maiden name??)

thanks
Matthew 

[majm]

Hi there,

When the index was first being prepared, (back in the 1930s)  if the original entry did NOT list any information under the heading "father's given name" and/or 'mother's given name' the VOLUNTEER preparing the index (a person familiar with family history searchings) would look around the record to see if there were other 'clues' and so put those other clues into the index.

So you have other clues.    Likely AVELING would be the SURNAME recorded on the registration as being for Irene's dad, and likely Irene was aged 59 years and died in Sydney. 

I hope these details helps advance your quest    may I encourage you to consider obtaining an official transcription of the registration.   It may well contain other information .... children of the marriage, the details of her spouse, the name, address and relationship of the informant, where interred, and other family history info.   Best with NSW records, to seek out the actual record rather than rely on index information.

Cheers,  JM

[matthewj64]

Hi there,

When the index was first being prepared, (back in the 1930s)  if the original entry did NOT list any information under the heading "father's given name" and/or 'mother's given name' the VOLUNTEER preparing the index (a person familiar with family history searchings) would look around the record to see if there were other 'clues' and so put those other clues into the index.

So you have other clues.    Likely AVELING would be the SURNAME recorded on the registration as being for Irene's dad, and likely Irene was aged 59 years and died in Sydney. 

I hope these details helps advance your quest    may I encourage you to consider obtaining an official transcription of the registration.   It may well contain other information .... children of the marriage, the details of her spouse, the name, address and relationship of the informant, where interred, and other family history info.   Best with NSW records, to seek out the actual record rather than rely on index information.

Cheers,  JM

Thank you for replying, its a big help. I am considering a transcript of this and/or a possible marriage record for her, I'm not yet sure she is the one I'm after so I'll explore the Aveling connection a bit more first.

Matthew

[majm]

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17195001 smh 29 July 1935  (edited to sort a typo, edited before #4 was posted)

So a middle name and not just an initial 

Cheers,  JM

[matthewj64]

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17195001 smh 29 July 1933

So a middle name and not just an initial 

Cheers,  JM

Thanks, I had come across this and its a little mysterious that she was cremated without a funeral. 

[majm]

I do not find it strange at all that the announcement came after the service.   

To me, the cremation service at Rookwood was the funeral service. 

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

Within my own NSW families, on both my maternal and paternal sides,  there are many instances of my Aunts, Uncles, Cousins who in the 20th Century were cremated in NSW without any notice being published in any newspaper, specifically at their own requests and with the funeral directors being well aware of those requests.    When I have been responsible for organising the funeral for family members I have known if the person intended for the funeral director to place a notice or not.   

Cheers,  JM

[matthewj64]

Within my own NSW families, on both my maternal and paternal sides,  there are many instances of my Aunts, Uncles, Cousins who in the 20th Century were cremated in NSW without any notice being published in any newspaper, specifically at their own requests and with the funeral directors being well aware of those requests.    When I have been responsible for organising the funeral for family members I have known if the person intended for the funeral director to place a notice or not.   

Cheers,  JM

Thanks again, I was trying to think up reasons why this would happen and how it might relate to her story, I can leave it be now

[majm]

The cost of an official transcription of the death registration is around $20 Au.   It will give you many details that should help you confirm or eliminate her from your enquiries.   For example, it will give you the name and address of the informant and their relationship to Irene.    Just because the informant did not know her father's given name but believed his surname was Aveling .... likely the informant was a family member.

Cheers JM