Womack/Stevens - where did they go?

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Finding her census data for 1851 and 1861 is high on my list of ambitions.

Have you seen the 1851 census entry for an Elizabeth Womack in Leeds? Born Ipswich, Suffolk, a saleswoman in a lace business. The age is a bit under (27). 34 Commercial Street.

Interesting - I shall take a look; from results and searches in census and BNA I know there is a whole sub-population of Womacks in Leeds (who I thought were unrelated, or only distantly related) to the Norfolk Womacks, so I filtered Yorkshire out of my results.

 BugBear

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David Gange Thorn Baptism 29 Jun 1828  Uffculme, Devon
Parents William and Sarah Thorn

William and Sarah lived in Wellington, which is now in Somerset. Birth is given as Oct 13 1827

Wellington to Uffculme is 9.2 miles (google says)

 BugBear

[bugbear]

The 1841 census (thanks to macjaq who corrected "Shoen" to "Thorn" in the transcription on ancestry back in 2012) shows William, Sarah and David Thorn, as per the baptism.

William is a 50 year old Saddler, and Sarah is the same age; they're living on the Market Place in Uffculme. David has 2 siblings, John and Sarah.

Class: HO107; Piece: 202; Folio: 10; Page: 14;

I think he  then strikes out on his own; shows in 1851 as an Assistant Druggist at the Post Office in Taunton, and again in 1861, lodging with Robert Hall, a Carpenter.

The 2 records match each other well, same occupation, same town, same birth town. The 1861 one has his name as "David George Thorn", and the birth town is Uffculme.

Class: HO107; Piece: 1922; Folio: 486; Page: 28;
Class: RG 9; Piece: 1617; Folio: 50; Page: 20;

He's not exactly "landed gentry". is he?

Having localised the Witness to Taunton, I tried for a William Stevens (groom) in the same town. No such luck. 

  BugBear

[ShaunJ]

65 Sutherland st (him) and 37 Hill st (her), presumably in parish of St George HS

37 Hill Street was the Coach & Horses Inn (prop Eli Baldwin in 1861). A few years later the numbering changed and it is now number 5. It's still there:

http://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/StGeorgeHanoverSquare/CoachHorsesHill.shtml

http://www.shepherdneame.co.uk/pubs/london/coach-horses

Sutherland Street was in Pimlico - I can't find it in the 1861 census and am wondering if that piece is missing.

[Kay99]

David Thorn's father William is listed as being born in Wellington, Somerset in 1787, in the  1851 census  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKVR-NH4Q  where the possible William Stevens b 1832 came from. 

Could be a relative of William Stevens?

[bugbear]

David Thorn's father William is listed as being born in Wellington, Somerset in 1787, in the  1851 census  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKVR-NH4Q  where the possible William Stevens b 1832 came from. 

Could be a relative of William Stevens?

Interesting; there's no "Jane Thorn" in 1841, although she's 21 in 1851.

Also curious is William Bridge; 6 years old in 1841, still in the household, and a Servant (aged 15, obvs) in 1851.

Baptisms with parents William & Sarah Thorn in Uffculme are:


Mary, born 1814    }
Hannah born 1816 }
Emma born 1818   } All baptised 1825.
John born 1820     }
James born 1822   }
Sarah born 1824   }


David Gange born 1827, bap 1828
Jane born 1830, bap 1831

 BugBear

[[Ray]]

 
1861 RG 9/ 66/126 p 16
 
Elizth Womack age 35 Apprentice b Ipswich, Suffolk, England
 85 Otford (Oxford?)St St Marylebone
"Lacemaker's Apprentice"

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1861 RG 9/ 66/126 p 16
 
Elizth Womack age 35 Apprentice b Ipswich, Suffolk, England
 85 Otford (Oxford?)St St Marylebone
"Lacemaker's Apprentice"

Wow. That's ODD. 35 seems more than a little long in the tooth for an apprentice.

 BugBear

[ShaunJ]

She's not an apprentice. She is one of four Assistants.