NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE - was it ever Scottish?

[king william]

Can anyone please tell me if Newcastle-upon-Tyne was ever a Scottish city. I have helped my friend with her family history and have checked that the city was never in Scottish hands.

I know that the borders did change over time but believe that it was always firmly in England. However she was told by an old timer from the area - a Geordie -  that he was born in Newcastle-upon-Tyne when it was a Scottish city as the borders were different back then, but it is now an English city.

I think it has always been English. As for the village of Kirknewton in Northumberland has that ever belonged to Scotland or has it always been English. It must be fairly close to the border.

Who is correct?
Robin - aka King William

[maddys52]

From a quick google search it looks like Newcastle upon Tyne was in Scottish hands from 1138-1157. So he would have to be a pretty old, old timer to have been born in it as a Scottish City!

However, there may be others with much more knowledgeable History than me. 

[IMBER]

Why not look him up on FreeBMD?:

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Imber

[stanmapstone]

As for the village of Kirknewton in Northumberland has that ever belonged to Scotland or has it always been English. It must be fairly close to the border.

KIRKNEWTON, a township and a parish in Glendale district, Northumberland. The township lies on the river Glen, under the Cheviots, near the railway from Scots-Gap to the Tweed, 3¾ miles E of the boundary with Scotland, http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/place/9417

Stan

[stanmapstone]

I know that the borders did change over time

The Solway-Tweed line was legally established in 1237 by the Treaty of York between England and Scotland.[1] It remains the border today
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Scottish_border

Stan

[king william]

Thanks to you all, it wasn't a problem with her history, just a query - but all sorted now thanks!

Robin - King William

[Pete E]

Perhaps the old timer was a bit confused and was actually born over the border in Newcastleton. 

[bookfairy]

Can anyone please tell me if Newcastle-upon-Tyne was ever a Scottish city. I have helped my friend with her family history and have checked that the city was never in Scottish hands.

I found your query interesting.  I have a relative that claimed he was Scottish on all the census but all of his records; marriage, baptisms, and census were all from Newcastle upon Tyne, All Saints Parish.  I've been trying to find anything that would indicate why he claimed Scotland. So far no luck and no hint of him ever having been to Scotland.

[dowdstree]

No offence meant but up here we sometimes refer to "Geordies" as half baked Scotsman .
It's meant as a term of endearment.

Geordies like Scots are born north of Watford 

Dorrie