1881 brickwall

[aggiebagwash]

I wonder if Winifred registered 2nd quarter 1861 Sheffield is the same child but registered late.

Nothing surprises me with genealogy.

[heywood]

That's what I am thinking!

[aggiebagwash]

I wonder why they changed the children's birth places, it all seems so odd to me.

I suspect that wherever they are they are together as a family because I can't find any of them at the moment.

[heywood]

I can see Thomas in 1881.
Do you have John in Oldham in later censuses. How have you made the family connection?

[aggiebagwash]

I was actually tracing John's family for a friend and she sent for his marriage certificate and it gave his father's name Martin, a labourer. I looked for Martin and he was the only one with a son called John born in the correct year.

[josey]

I can't see them either after poking around with various options on several sites. There seems to be only 1 piece missing from the 1881 as far as I can see. The problem may be that a page has not been imaged & therefore not transcribed. There have been threads on here about issues like that, but how you find out which pages I do not know.

I am not so surprised about birth place changes, sometimes the enumerator did too many dittos when copying the householder's sheet 

Do you know where Helen was living when she died? Do you know of any marriages of children between 1871 & 1881 - this might give an address?

Just noticed your post - where was John living when he married?

[aggiebagwash]

He was living in Oldham, Lancashire and he died there in 1909. I have only found Thomas's marriage to Emma so there's Mary and Catherine's marriage's to find.

[aggiebagwash]

I'm not sure where Helen/Ellen died it just says Durham however for Martin's burial it says St Cuthbert's, Durham and another record gave his burial at Redhills Cemetery.

[heywood]

There are quite a few McDermotts in Oldham!

If you had the address from his marriage it might help.
Did he marry Elizabeth Elwood?