Jarvis - Brentwood area

[nannyj]

Hi Liz. I'd already checked great warley. No baptisms there for any Jarvis children during that period 😞

[alison300]

wow this amazing - I don't know what to say but thank you all very much.  i'll have to print this information off and study it over the weekend.  it's such a puzzle i'll have to order one of the birth or death certificates to get to the bottom of this.  Thank you!

[nannyj]

Will keep looking in the meantime, but please post what you find out as it's all really intriguing.

[lizdb]

Hi Liz. I'd already checked great warley. No baptisms there for any Jarvis children during that period 😞

St Mary's? Or Christ Church?   It would be Christ Church. Or, if I remember rightly, there is some sort of separate record for Lorne Road Cemetery.  It is some years since I was going through the all (this was in person at Essex Record Office) so my memory may have gone hazy. Not sure how it all looks since being available on SEAX - not sure how you would get to Lorne Road Cemetery. Don't have a subscription so cant check!

Yes, Alison, do keep us updated. It is looking very much as if the babies might not have been christened, or at least not in the C of E Church. There is also a Catholic church on Warley Hill, hadn't thought about that before, so that is another possible as well as the possibility they may have been non conformist, or that they may not have hed the babies christened at all.

I still think, from the 1881 census, that John and Jane are the most likely candidates for the parents. But that is very thin "evidence", well not evidence at all, just that from that census they appear as the only likely candidates, being of child bearing age and living almost next door to Lorne Road cemetery.

What I am trying to get my heads round is the fact that your relation was buried with these babaies so much later. It was not a case of the babies being popped into a grave that was alreasdy in existence. They were there first, so the question to me is not so much 'why were the babies put into your rellies grave', but more 'why was your rellie put into a grave that was already used by these babies'?

[nannyj]

Hi Liz, it was both that I checked.
I agree about the babies being in first. Strange. Can't remember which any round it as with my uncle. Two sets of babies too and Two sets of twins so close together. Would be nice to find the parents just to confirm that they did actually have surviving children. Sad.

[nannyj]

Checked all of the billericay registration district baptisms with no luck.
Looks like birth certificate might be only way of knowing 🤔

[alison300]

Thanks Liz and nannyj - I spoke to my mum about this today and she was very surprised that her sister was buried in an existing plot; we are going to try and find the plot in a couple of weeks time as she hasn't been there since 1952!  I will order a certificate this week and let you know the outcome as I'm keen to know who the parents of these two sets of twins were.  Thanks very much for all the help and local knowledge.

[alison300]

For anyone who is still looking at my posts, I wanted to update you:

I purchased the birth cert. for Lottie who was born 12.15am on 3 Oct 1879 at South Weald.  Her parents were Jane Rose Jarvis (nee Tribe) & John Jarvis, a bricklayer.  There is an address but I can't decipher it (doesn't look like Junction Road though).  Anyway, one puzzle solved!  Thanks everyone.

[lizdb]

Hi

If you can scan the portion of the cert with the address, I'll have a look - being local I might be able to work out their address when Lottie was born.