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John Fox stonemason in Bristol
« on: Wednesday 11 May 16 14:39 BST (UK) »
I'm looking for any information on John or Jane Fox who were living in Rowley place in Bristol ,St Mary Redcliff, according to the 1841 census. John was aged 45 and his occupation was a Mason their children's names were:
John,Harriet,George,Henry,jane , & fanny and all were born in Bristol & baptised at St James.

I have had no luck finding any records for Janes maiden name nor her marriage to John.
I have also searched for directories of stonemasons hoping to find out more with no luck.
Any suggestions to help me get past this brick wall would be greatly appreciated!   

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Re: John Fox stonemason in Bristol
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 11 May 16 16:03 BST (UK) »
In the 1851 census John says he was born in Newport Glamorgan and in the 1861 census he says he was born in Cardiff Glamorgan. In the 1861 he has a daughter Sarah Lot Fox aged 19 living with him. If her birth certificate could be traced it would give the mother's maiden name and might help to find the parents' marriage .

Sarah Lott Fox was baptised 18 September 1841 in Bristol.

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Re: John Fox stonemason in Bristol
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 11 May 16 17:20 BST (UK) »
Thank you Gibel,
That's where my confusion with Johns background came from wether he was from Wales or Bristol so I stuck with the 1841 census that he was from Bristol.Maybe the poor man wasn't too sure where he was born 😀😀😀I did follow Sarah & have her marriage to James Rathborne in 1863 & she moves on to Bedminster.there was also another child William Lot baptised in 1837 but I can't seem to find birth certificates for any of the children. The only death that fitted Johns age was in 1869 in st Nicholas Gloucester in the union workhouse St Catherine but having followed the other children that surprised me . I will continue my hunt on those certificates ! I was hoping to find a register in a stonemason guild or something of the like for more clues as one of his sons became one too!
You certainly are a wiz ! I really appreciate your response !

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Re: John Fox stonemason in Bristol
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 11 May 16 17:27 BST (UK) »
The 1841 census doesn't give specific birthplaces and is less reliable (because of the crude Y/N system for "born in county") than the later ones which required a specific birthplace to be stated.

You won't find birth certificates for the children born before 1 July 1837 as that was the date on which civil registration was introduced.

Fanny seems to have been baptised as Frances Fox on 11 Dec 1831 in Bristol, daughter of John & Jane.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: John Fox stonemason in Bristol
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 11 May 16 17:32 BST (UK) »

Sarah Lott Fox was baptised 18 September 1841 in Bristol.

18 September 1842, I think?

Possible birth registration as Sarah Fox, Sep qtr 1842 Bristol vol 11 p166.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: John Fox stonemason in Bristol
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 11 May 16 17:42 BST (UK) »
Possible baptism for the eldest known child:

John Fox, baptised 24 Dec 1820 at St Philip's & St Jacob's, Bristol.  Parents John & Jane.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: John Fox stonemason in Bristol
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 11 May 16 18:07 BST (UK) »
Thank you avm228.i have all the children's baptism records and were all baptised at st james,Bristol except for john which seems unusual. But  I will pursue Sarah's birth certificate!
I was thrown by the name Lot but maybe it's connected to her mothers maiden name?
Thanks so much for your advice !

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Re: John Fox stonemason in Bristol
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 May 16 18:10 BST (UK) »
You're welcome.

You can order the certificate from GRO Online for £9.25.  Let us know when it arrives :)
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: John Fox stonemason in Bristol
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 11 May 16 18:15 BST (UK) »
Now I'm excited ! Wish they did two day delivery to Australai😆😆😊
Many thanks