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Re: Trying to trace my Romany roots Foster and Evans
« Reply #18 on: Monday 06 June 16 18:29 BST (UK) »
1881
Chalgrave beds
John Foster head M 63 dealer
Ann wife 62 no calling Tilsworth Beds
RG11 1639 109 15

it seems by 1891 Ann had died and John had remarried
1891 London Road Chalgrave
John Foster head M 72 General dealer
Elizabeth wife 52
RG12 1263 92 6

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Re: Trying to trace my Romany roots Foster and Evans
« Reply #19 on: Monday 06 June 16 19:44 BST (UK) »
so with occupations like Marine Store Dealer and General Dealer is there a chance that further back there could have been a Traveller/ Gypsy link ?

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Re: Trying to trace my Romany roots Foster and Evans
« Reply #20 on: Monday 06 June 16 20:08 BST (UK) »
the furthest back I have got is 1841 when John Foster was an agricultural labourer
In 1851 he was a straw factor -which would have been a dealer in straw plaits possibly -and this is where (in my opinion) the dealership started. There is no sign so far of them living in anything but a house/cottage and being in the same area for many years.
John Foster in 1891 had living next door to him William L Foster with wife and 6 children - I believe this was John's eldest son William Loftus (or Loftus William (this family seem to have changed their names around -sometimes they use forename other times middle name) William Loftus is also described as a general dealer .
No Romany signs yet

Who do you have as John's parents??
There is a baptism
John Foster 22 Nov 1818 Hockliffe
parents Edward & Sarah
I can't find John called any of his children Edward or Sarah

John's marriage cert to Ann would name both of their fathers  and their occupations
Certificates can be ordered online from GRO and cost 9-25
there are trees on A******y which vary - so we don't know how well sourced they are
Certificates are always a good investment - but are only available from Sept 1837

Suz
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Re: Trying to trace my Romany roots Foster and Evans
« Reply #21 on: Monday 06 June 16 20:13 BST (UK) »
I have John Foster born 1760 died 1799 married to Elizabeth Breed born in 1761 could only find 1 child Edward Foster 1787-1871

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Re: Trying to trace my Romany roots Foster and Evans
« Reply #22 on: Monday 06 June 16 20:23 BST (UK) »
Do you think you have missed a generation??
If John Foster and Elizabeth Breed are the parents of John Foster (father of henry Amos Foster) then Elizabeth would be c.age 58 when John was born???
So these are more likely to be Grandparents of John
You say you can only find one child of theirs Edward -so would this be Edward who married Sarah and had son John Foster in 1818??
Could you post where you have found the records you have just posted?

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Re: Trying to trace my Romany roots Foster and Evans
« Reply #23 on: Monday 06 June 16 20:25 BST (UK) »
yeah sorry i skipped a generation .....

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Re: Trying to trace my Romany roots Foster and Evans
« Reply #24 on: Monday 06 June 16 20:31 BST (UK) »
oldest first is John and Elizabeth married in 1781 there son Edward Married Sarah Weaver 1793-1862
there son John married Ann Butts 1820-1890 there son married Cecilla Carter

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Re: Trying to trace my Romany roots Foster and Evans
« Reply #25 on: Monday 06 June 16 20:32 BST (UK) »
a friend who'd traced there tree did it  so i have no idea where they got the info from ......sorry

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Re: Trying to trace my Romany roots Foster and Evans
« Reply #26 on: Monday 06 June 16 20:36 BST (UK) »
oldest first is John and Elizabeth married in 1781 there son Edward Married Sarah Weaver 1793-1862
there son John married Ann Butts 1820-1890 there son married Cecilla Carter

I think there maybe some errors - John Foster (son of Edward and Sarah) married Ann Butts on some trees but there are notes that Ann Butts was not the Ann who married John Foster -she married someone else

I'll just check this

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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