Searching for a Joseph NAPHTALI from Middlesex to Western Australia

[hettyhen]

Joseph Naphtali c1849 Parents: Solomon c1817-1859 and Frances/Fanny/Janny c1827-1880 (DOB given as 1818)
1851 census with family: Solomon (Commission Dealer in Jewellery),  wife Janny,  daughter Julia age 4 and Joseph 2.
Ellen EASTEE c1855.  Parents Charles c1817-Dec 1866 age 48 and Elizabeth c1827 –not found.
1861 census: Charles and Elizabeth and Jesse c1860-died-1861. Paupers in St George in the East Poorhouse.
1861 census Ellen was at St George Industrial School, Pauper age 6 with Charles 11, Maria 9, Edward 4.
 The family, but not the father, were in and out of the workhouse a couple of times in 1862.
Joseph is on 1861 census as Naphtale, 1871 Naphtli,  can’t find them on the 1881 Census but there is a Joseph Naphtali on 1884 Electoral register at 8 Headcorn Rd Tottenham- House as Occupier, but whether it is same Joseph is yet to be proved, maybe finding him in 1881 may help.   
 Ellen married Joseph at St Jude Bethnal Green, 6 Mar 1881.
Baptism of son Edward 6 Jan 1886 All Hallows Tottenham, Borough Haringey.
Marriage of Edward J-F-M 1918 Edmonton Mddx England to Lillian M BRIERS.
Birth: Grace NAPHTALI, mother Briers, Sep 1919 Edmonton.
Have found a Grace NAPHTALI featuring in the following records from West Australia.
Marriage: Grace to Joseph KNOWLES as 1934 on one record 1935 on another in Yilgarn Western Australia.
Have found Grace and Joseph Knowles on the WA E/rolls together up to 1958, no Joseph from 1963 and Grace still there on1980 roll.
Haven’t found Joseph and Ellen or Edward & Lillian on any other records. Gaps 1881-1886-1918-1934 to be filled in and your help with tracing their movements and any more children for both couples would be most appreciated.
Will wait a few days and see what results come from this post and will then put it on the Australia board to find out more about them in WA.
Thank you
HeatherR

[jomcd967]

The following article on Lillian and Edward (otherwise Martin) and their daughter (presumably Grace) regarding their marriage, divorce and move to WA.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/32468091?searchTerm=Naphtali&searchLimits=l-state=Western+Australia

Jo 

[Christine53]

Edward, Lilian and Grace Naphtali sailed 15 Oct 1927 on the Vedic from Liverpool to Albany. Their last address was 17 Caxton Road , Wood Green , N22.

[fiddlerslass]

Hi Heather

1881


Joseph Nephlis
England and Wales Census, 1881
Fair Street South
Mile End Old Town
Age    32
Married
Packing Case Maker (Carpenter)
Birthplace    Stepney, Middlesex, England
Page Number    19
Registration Number    RG11
Piece/Folio    475/87

Ellen Nephlis    Wife    F    26    St. George East, Middlesex, England

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[Kaybron]

Hi hettyhen,

This site can be used for searching  http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/  for births deaths and marriages.  I found a death entry for a Joseph Knowles in 1949, registered in Perth.

Kaybron

[rosball]

Death of Edward MARTIN (father of Grace KNOWLES) in 1944

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article95761328

 FUNERAL NOTIGES  MARTIN.— The friends of the late Edward Martin, late of Coolgardie, loving father of Grace (Mrs. Knowles), of William street, Perth, are respectfully informed that his remains
will be removed from W.Strother's Private Mortuary Chapel, 18 Hannan street, Kalgoorlie, THIS (Tuesday) AFTERNOON, at 2 o'clock, for interment in the Anglican portion of the Kalgoorlie Cemetery. W.Strother, Funeral Director, Kalgoorlie, Boulder and Coolgardie.

Other good sites for W.A.
   More recent marriages http://wamarriage.info/
   Metropolitan cemeteries http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/

regards
  Ros

adding: Kalgoorlie Cemetery http://www.ozburials.com/CemsWA/Kalgoorlie/kalgoorlie_m.htm

[rosball]

Burial of Lillian Maude MARTIN in 1988 age 92
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00092819

regards
  Ros

[rosball]

This is probably Grace's husband Joseph KNOWLE's WW2 service.   Born 1909 Belfast Ireland, enlisted at BUllfinch, W.A. (not far from where he married Grace in 1935)  and NOK is Grace.

http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=744158

regards
  Ros
adding : You can request his full army record to be digitised here http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/
Costs money - about $30

[rosball]

Death of Joseph KNOWLES

1973 Death KNOWLES Joseph, age 64, father John ,mother Mary at Swan in W.A. reg 78/73

Burial
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00042321

Ros