Searching for a Joseph NAPHTALI from Middlesex to Western Australia

[hettyhen]

Well, what a rotter Edward turned out to be!!  The Marriage is on FreeBMD as Naphtali-Briers so seems strange that Lillian thought he was a Martin, but, I suppose, he would've had some good story to explain the difference at the time.
Am running a bit short of time today but will follow up all the links tomorrow.

Thank you all for your help, yet another version of the family name to add to the list "Nephlis"
HeatherR

[Christine53]

The Marriage is on FreeBMD as Naphtali-Briers so seems strange that Lillian thought he was a Martin

The marriage is indexed as Briers/ Martin. If you look at the entry there is a hand written asterisk which refers to a hand written entry for Naphtali which has been added later at the bottom of the page. I think I would be looking for Edward as Martin in other records and would want to see what the marriage certificate says.

[JustinL]

The birth registers of London's New Synagogue (well, it was new when it was built in the 18th century) record that Joseph's father, Solomon was born on 1st August 1815. His father was called Joseph, his father's father was called Naphtali; hence the origin of the surname.

Solomons' parents married in the New Synagogue in 1813. They were:

Joseph son of Naftali aka Hirsh and Golda daughter of Joseph aka Yezel

Solomon had at least one, possibly, two siblings:
Frances, daughter of Joseph, who married Hyam Levy in the Great Synagogue on 31 Dec 1834
Morris, who married Maria Levy in the new Synagogue on 22 Apr 1841

[hettyhen]

CB53,
Thank you for that explanation, after looking back to those records it now seems so obvious that I misunderstood them.  Have found an Edward Martin on Family search records for WW1 with identical details, but haven't been able to delve further into them, get a turning arrow but no further, so may have to visit the nearest LDS Church, or do you know if they would they be on FindMyPast then it would only be a 5 min walk to the local library?  Have tried A*try, but no success there either.
Cheers
HeatherR.

[Christine53]

Findmypast certainly has some records that Ancestry does not so definitely worth a look if you have access at the library.

[hettyhen]

Thank you all for your help, the War Record that I found was a brief report of ill health after the war, there may be more there somewhere to find at another time.
Thought maybe Joseph died and Ellen remarried, but have found no records to support that theory, a Robert Martin married an Ellen, 1887 I think it was, but wrong surname for bride. On the 1911 census a Martin family father Robert wife Ellen married 24 years with son Edward age 25 and 3 daughters Edith 21, Lilly 19, and Grace 14 (on 1901 census Lilly is Elizabeth, Ellen's mother's name) and Grace is used as name for daughter born Sept 1919 to Edward Naphtali/Martin and Lillian.  Which is probably all just a coincidence and not the family I am looking for at all, but the search has been enjoyable.
So will order the marriage certificate of Edward Naphtali/Martin and Lillian M Briers and see if there is any clue hidden away there.
Justin, Thanks for the family of Joseph, the switching of first to second names and vice versa is very confusing, don't suppose there would be any records of a Rebecca Hyman c1814  with a father Mordecai/Marcus in there somewhere?   Need all the help I can get with that family.
Have been sent details of an "Ask a Librarian" service in WA so will sort out some questions for them to fill in some gaps.
Cheers
HeatherR

[Christine53]

On the 1911 census a Martin family father Robert wife Ellen married 24 years with son Edward age 25 and 3 daughters Edith 21, Lilly 19, and Grace 14 (on 1901 census Lilly is Elizabeth, Ellen's mother's name) and Grace is used as name for daughter born Sept 1919 to Edward Naphtali/Martin and Lillian. 

I found this family too and spent a long time looking for a link. The only thing I found is that Edward Martin's birthplace is given as Park Lane in 1911 and the Naphtali family were living at 10 Laurel Terrace , Park Lane at the time of Edward's baptism. Frustrating !

[hettyhen]

CB53,
Isn't it just!  But hope that all the little clues gradually add up. Am about to order the marriage certificate for Edward and Lillian and they take about 2 weeks to get to NZ and maybe it will have some added clue to help us out.  Then, if all else fails, maybe Edward's death cert in WA may be helpful.
HeatherR

[hettyhen]

Will close this topic for now, the family have been found on the 1881 census and have some WA leads to search.  So some progress has been made thanks to your help.
Have ordered the Marriage cert for Edward Naphtali/Martin and Lillian Briers so when that arrives, and if it has new information to help this search will post it here.
Cheers
HeatherR