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Placename in Alltwalis in 1861
« on: Sunday 19 June 16 09:08 BST (UK) »
On page 2 of the 1861 census for Alltwalis, Walter Walters is living at ...

I think it says "Snaesisa". Is that correct?
Thomas, Davies, Jones, Walters, Daniel in Carmarthenshire and Ceredigion. That should narrow it down a bit!
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Ingram: Cairnie by Huntly, Scotland then Abergavenny, Monmouthshire.
Bardouleau: London - in memory of my stepmother Annie Rose née Bardouleau who put up with a lot from me.
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Re: Placename in Alltwalis in 1861
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 June 16 14:18 BST (UK) »
Wondered if it might be "Maes isa"  (the" lower field")

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Re: Placename in Alltwalis in 1861
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 June 16 14:27 BST (UK) »
Is this address continued on the previous or following census page where the writing may be clearer? You could also check page one to see if it is mentioned in the description of the enumeration district.

Just checked - the first letter doesn't look like the other Ss or Ms or As on the census page. (and I see this is the only mention of this address)

Added: following the enumerator's walk on a detailed map of the area might find this place. :-\

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Re: Placename in Alltwalis in 1861
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 June 16 14:33 BST (UK) »
Do you have the census reference to check place names either side. I'm looking at an 1887 map of Alltwalis to locate a possible "Maes isa" - no luck yetn

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Re: Placename in Alltwalis in 1861
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 June 16 14:42 BST (UK) »
It's been transcribed as "Macsisa" by FindMyPast!!

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Re: Placename in Alltwalis in 1861
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 June 16 14:46 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your suggestions. I want to assume it's Maes Isa but it just doesn't seem to stack up. I tried following the enumerator's route but for once I can't identify any of the dwellings on the OS 1:10,000 map.

Thomas, Davies, Jones, Walters, Daniel in Carmarthenshire and Ceredigion. That should narrow it down a bit!
Vincent: Fressingfield, Suffolk, Stockton & Sunderland.
Murtha/Murtaugh: Dundalk & Sunderland
Ingram: Cairnie by Huntly, Scotland then Abergavenny, Monmouthshire.
Bardouleau: London - in memory of my stepmother Annie Rose née Bardouleau who put up with a lot from me.
gedmatch.com A006809
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Re: Placename in Alltwalis in 1861
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 June 16 14:52 BST (UK) »
I can see Bedw hirion on the 1887 map. Maes isa? is Schedule Entry No 4, bedw hirion is no 6?

Spring might be "Spring Garden", also on map?

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Re: Placename in Alltwalis in 1861
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 June 16 14:59 BST (UK) »
I'm failing miserably trying to find any of the places on the enumerator's route. I've only located Clyn-glas:
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=16&lat=51.9737&lon=-4.2321&layers=6&right=BingHyb

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Re: Placename in Alltwalis in 1861
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 June 16 15:07 BST (UK) »
I can see Maes y rhiw (sch no 7)and the woollen factory (sch no 2?) on the map - but cannot see anything in the locale that ends "isa"
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