Placename in Alltwalis in 1861

[Ruskie]

If it is Maes Isa, as there is only one family living there it may have been so small as to not warrant being marked on a map. If it was "the lower field" then you wouldn't expect to see that on a map and it may have been the only way to identify where the family lived (a local rather than official name for the house)? 

Have you tried an address search on earlier and later censuses?

[hanes teulu]

I can see a couple of items on Welshnewspapers on line that refer to "Maes Isaf, Allt(y)walis" - but having problems displaying the original article.

[hanes teulu]

The addresses run "1. Penybont, 2. Alltwalis Factory (the woolleen factory?), 3. Alltwalis gate, 4. Maes(?) isa, ...".

There's an 1859 newspaper (Welsh newspapers) report of an attempt to avoid the full toll at Alltywalis Gate. Where was the toll gate in/near Allt(y) walis?

[Mabel Bagshawe]

I can;t get imges up but I can see a (badly) auto-transcribed line from 1900 - Yr oedd annedd.dt Maes Isaf, Alltywalis, yn anaddas I fyw ynddo - in part of article regarding a report to the Newcastle Emlyn RDC from I think the Public Health Inspector. I guess this text to say  that the hovel Maes Isaf, Alltwalis is unsauitable for human habitation. There is further text but without sight of the actual print I can;t decipher it completely or be sure it has any relation to the previous sentence.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Found a better transcribed version of a report on the same meeting  (original language English)

The Inspector of Nuisances gave his monthly report, and stated that the cottage on Alltwalis Farm, Llanfihangel called Maesisaf was quite unfit for human habitation, and that Mr. R. Browne, solicitor, Carmarthen, the agent to the owners, had taken no notice of the three warnings he had sent him. Mr. Thomas Davies moved, Mr. William Jones seconded, and it was resolved that proceedings be taken against the agent to close the house.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

This might also help - from the sale particulars of the Alltwalis estate in 1855. Does suggest it's near the turnpike gate

LOT III. All that Dwelling House, Factory, Cottage and Premises, with Garden and and small Field, situate near the turnpike Gate, now in the several occupations of Eleanor Jones and David Davies, as tenants-at-will, containing la. 11'. 18p., be the game more or less.

LOT IV. All that Shop, Dwelling House, Blacksmith's Forge, Garden and Field, situate in the Village of Alltywalis, now in the occupation of David Davies. Also, a COTTAGE and GARDEN, in the occupation of Walter Walters, as tenant-at- will, containing together Ia. 2r. 24p., be the same more or less.

N.B. The Shop, Dwelling House, Blacksmith's Forge, Garden, and Field, in the occupation of David Davies, are held by him under a Lease for the life of Margaret Davies, aged 48.

[despair]

If you  go to www.old-maps.co.uk and use the postcode SA32 7EB  as  the search term,then use the most modern 1:2500 map at the maximum zoom available,it's right there.

Regards
Roger

[hanes teulu]

RG10  5547  57  12
1871 Census (schedule No. in brackets) -

63. Penllwyd goed (Llwydcoed on 1887 map?)
64. Maes uchaf (Head, Thomas Davies, Master Blacksmith)
65. Alltwalis Factory
66. Alltwalis gate

"Isa" in '61, "uchaf" in '71?

[hanes teulu]

In the 1881 Census Walter Walters, age 55 is at "Maes isaf" (Sch No. 2), nestling between "1. Factory, 3. Alltwalis Gate, 4. Alltwalis Farm",