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Re: Will & Inventory of Thomas Holyer 1586 Nether Whitacre Warwick
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 05 July 16 05:26 BST (UK) »
From the first extract:

...All Suche implementes, as belonge...

...eldest daughters Elyzabeth amye and wynefrete, to ev(er)y one...

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Re: Will & Inventory of Thomas Holyer 1586 Nether Whitacre Warwick
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 05 July 16 05:38 BST (UK) »
Your transcript of the second extract is mostly accurate, except for the passages below.  You are right that the section refers to a known but unborn child his wife was carrying at the time the will was made.

...that my wyfe shall kepe yt untyll yt have a calffe at the ffoote...

...the age off xij yeres...
     [12 rather than 18]

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Re: Will & Inventory of Thomas Holyer 1586 Nether Whitacre Warwick
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 05 July 16 06:05 BST (UK) »
My many thanks HD86.

I don't know why I didn't see the daughters names, though I knew them, except the record I had has Anne instead of amye. Although the source was someone else who transcribed this will some 20 years ago. no other evidence.

Just that insight made the transcription useful.

I think some of my problem is trying to transcribe in the evening, when my brain is tired, I made some silly errors.  It is 10pm here.

I have a feeling I may come across some odd words in the inventory.
 
signing off, Brian

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Re: Will & Inventory of Thomas Holyer 1586 Nether Whitacre Warwick
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 06 July 16 05:39 BST (UK) »
I think I got this right but want to make sure the names are right. also a question on the use of "alias"?

I appoynte John Buyamoe, my father, Robarte Latte, John said son alias
Layslye and thomas Brookes, ov(er)seers thearoff when I desire to se thys my laste
wyll and testament truly p(er)formed gevynge unto ev(er)y one off them 12d a
peace ffor their (ex)pences    Wytnes hear off Thomas Wylson,Kyt lull, John
Burton, thomas hall & Randle Worsley wryter hea(r)off w(i)th synors others

The inventorye off all the goodes and cattell whiche
weare thomas holyors off netherwhyteker late deceased
(a)praised & valued the 29 off Julye A(nn)o D(om)ini 1586 By foure
houese & substanciall menne, worthy credyt, Indyfferent-
lye & Elected and chosen, that is to saye Robarte Burton
waler butler, Thomas Hall and William hydson alias bayly

Thanks Brian
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Re: Will & Inventory of Thomas Holyer 1586 Nether Whitacre Warwick
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 06 July 16 10:28 BST (UK) »
Here's my view of the names in the first extract:

John Bryamor
my father
Robarte Bette
[wouldn't completely rule out Belle]
John hidson alias Baylye
Thomas Brookes

Thomas Wylson
Ryc(hard) Bull
[slight ? over surname]
John Barton
Thomas Hall
Randle Worsley
w(i)th Dyvers others
[= diverse]

A couple of suggestions for the first extract:

Not when but whom I desire.

...ffor their peines   [= pains]

I shall have to tackle the second extract later, if it's not done by someone else.

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Re: Will & Inventory of Thomas Holyer 1586 Nether Whitacre Warwick
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 06 July 16 15:19 BST (UK) »
Many thanks HD86, There were more errors than I had thought. Am I right in thinking that the original will would not have had as many abbreviations?

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Re: Will & Inventory of Thomas Holyer 1586 Nether Whitacre Warwick
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 06 July 16 16:43 BST (UK) »
From the second extract:

...honeste & Substanciall...   [the t is directly under the loop of the long-s and obscured by the tail of the &]

I think the name is water butler.  The t doesn't have much of a curved top (similar to that in hit on the previous page.  An l would have a loop.

Possibly this means walter.

It's impossible to say which of the Original or Registered Will might have the more abbreviations.  As I recall, most of the abbreviations are fairly standard, so might well appear in both versions.

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Re: Will & Inventory of Thomas Holyer 1586 Nether Whitacre Warwick
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 10 July 16 01:15 BST (UK) »
Hello again

Assuming I have the transcription right, the meaning of a few words escape me.
coverlinges - I am guessing it is the same as coverlets
broches - the only meaning I could find was a tool for enlarging holes. I am not sure this is right
mafflen - not a clue

Imrpiminis his app(ar)ell for hys bodye        13 4   
Item eight bolstors and thre pyllowes        17 0
Item two fetherbeddes two matterses      10 13 4
Item syx cov(er)linges praysed     10 1
Item syx twyllyes and ffoure Blanketes     20 0   
Item seven bedsteddes       7 0
Item eleven pearse off shetes     40 0
Item two pyllow beares and syx napkynnes       4 0 
Item thre table clothes and thre towles       8 4
Item seven coffers     10 0 
Item certen paynted clothes       5 0
Item one cubborde       6 8 
Item one borde, one forme and ffoure cheres       3 4 
Item thre pottes and one posnet foure pannes and one kettell     26 8   
Item two basens off mafflen, two candlesteckes, one chafrondyshe & a skymm(er)       4 0
Item peuter praysed at     13 4
Item two broches, one peare off cobbordes one peare off pottehengles one ffire shovle
one landirone, one pear off tonges a ffryinge panne and a grydiro(n)       5 0 
Item one ffatte, thre barrels and certen other wodden stuffe remaynynge w(i)thin
the house     20 0 

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Re: Will & Inventory of Thomas Holyer 1586 Nether Whitacre Warwick
« Reply #44 on: Sunday 10 July 16 06:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Brian,

I agree that the coverlinges = coverlets, coverlids.

The two basens off masslen = basins containing maslin grain.

You have the spelling of broches correct, I think.

I'm not sure of the meaning either - it's listed with mostly fireplace items (with the exception of the cobbordes).  Possibly it is some form of bench?

A couple of minor spelling suggestions - matryses, Aleven