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Re: Will & Inventory of Thomas Holyer 1586 Nether Whitacre Warwick
« Reply #45 on: Sunday 10 July 16 06:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks HD86

I had missed the spelling of eleven /aleven.  maslin of course.

as for cobbordes, I found a reference to it as an alternative spelling of cobirons.

As for broches I will stick with "hole enlarging tool" unless something better comes along.

Brian

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Re: Will & Inventory of Thomas Holyer 1586 Nether Whitacre Warwick
« Reply #46 on: Sunday 10 July 16 06:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks Brian,

It's useful to know that a cubborde is a cupboard but a peare off cobbordes are two cobirons.

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Re: Will & Inventory of Thomas Holyer 1586 Nether Whitacre Warwick
« Reply #47 on: Sunday 10 July 16 16:24 BST (UK) »
The last of this inventory. I found a satisfactory meaning for all except below.

fflychynnes  _ I assume this refers to a smaller flitch of bacon  "literally flitch ends" can't find a reference
clevyse - I couldn't find a reference but it could be a very early reference to a clevis, ( a u shaped iron with a pin)
gered -don't know also check the valuation ( the slash I thought was a j)
nakardes - don't know
route - don't know, probably spelling error, should mean "a team"

Item two fflychynnes off bacon w(i)th butter and chese     10 0 
Item thre strycke off malte       5 0 
Item one stryke off wheate       3 4 
Item ffoure bagges       2 0 
Item one ploughe, one wayne, one peare of smale harowes, one oxharowe two tewes two peare
off clevyes one peare off ploughe irons, one cartrope, one muckforke, one muckhoke
thre yockes gered praysed at       26 8
Item two axes, two bylles, ffoure pyckforkes, two nakardes, one sythe, on spade
one shovle one hachet, one hand byll with certen other instrumentes belongyng to
husbandrye      10 0
Item certen blockes kyddes and wodde        10 0
Item haye and corne      10 0 0
Item two route oxen       5 13 4
Item two steres          5  0  0
Item ffyve kynne p(ray)sed at      10  0  0
Item ffoure weanynges and fyve yerlynges      7  0  0
Item two mares praysed at      3  0  0
Item syx swyne praysed at      20  0      
Item geese and poltrye praysed at      5  0

Thanks Brian
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Re: Will & Inventory of Thomas Holyer 1586 Nether Whitacre Warwick
« Reply #48 on: Sunday 10 July 16 17:05 BST (UK) »
cleyves = clevis, connects plough to the animal's gear
gered = geared, with handles etc.
runte oxen = probably small or old oxen


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Re: Will & Inventory of Thomas Holyer 1586 Nether Whitacre Warwick
« Reply #49 on: Sunday 10 July 16 17:52 BST (UK) »
Regarding the fflychynnes off bacon, my Oxfordshire ancestors of this time and into the C17th always use a variant of the same word.  I have not found one use of flitch, without some form of the -ing.

My opinion is that a flitch (or side) is the meaning.  I may be wrong.

Agree with 26 shillings and eight pence for that red valuation.

I can't help with the nakardes, I'm afraid.

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Re: Will & Inventory of Thomas Holyer 1586 Nether Whitacre Warwick
« Reply #50 on: Sunday 10 July 16 18:05 BST (UK) »
Hello vrvt Thanks very much for your input. runt oxen makes perfect sense and thanks for confirming my clevis theory.

I also took another look at gered as geared and found this reference in The Works of the Gawain Poet: Sir Gawain and the Green Knight https://books.google.ca/books?id=6pfvAwAAQBAJ&pg=PT652&lpg=PT652&dq=gered+arrayed&source=bl&ots=9tVMrWG8eJ&sig=DEshH6uf_dNzeMFxnCqGEv0O0Ug&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjR2J_vrOnNAhVYzWMKHeLWDTgQ6AEIJjAC#v=onepage&q=gered%20arrayed&f=false

gered - geared or arrayed out, dressed out

Thanks so much Brian

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Re: Will & Inventory of Thomas Holyer 1586 Nether Whitacre Warwick
« Reply #51 on: Sunday 10 July 16 18:12 BST (UK) »
HD86

Thanks for checking that valuation and the flitch clarification.

I will keep my eyes open for nakardes.

Brian
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