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Overseas research question regarding research in Finland or Sweden
« on: Thursday 23 June 16 17:19 BST (UK) »
Hello, I am fairly new to do family tree research and am having a booger of a time gfinding any info on my Great Grandfather. He immigrated rather late into the US, 1902. Im pretty sure I have all the info that can be foound in the states. On all but one document he lists himself and his parents as being born in Finland. The other he put Sweden. I have heard a story or two that he fled a conflict with some other men, apparently before 1902, where he and a few others killed a milirtary officer or something. Supposedly they fled to neighboring countries and changed their names to a common surname of that country. My question is, how can I check records from Finland or Sweden and try and find, if any exist, birth records that match his birthdate with his first and middle name? Supposedly, his original name was some derivitive of Schoumann/Showmann/Schouman etc. I know its a stretch and I probably will never know, but I have to at least try. I have an aquaintance who speaks both languages of Sweden and Finland that might be able to look for me if I can find an online solution to this. Thanks! Also, any other advice that I could look into here in the states would much appreciated.

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Re: Overseas research question
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 23 June 16 21:15 BST (UK) »
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Finland

Most of the region was a part of Sweden until 1809.
Then the majority of the Finnish speaking areas were ceded to Russia, as the Grand Duchy of Finland.
Finland declared independence in 1917.
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Re: Overseas research question
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 23 June 16 23:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Jason

Can you give me your great grandfather's name and date of birth please. Also his parents' names. I can then take look here in Sweden and Finland for you.

Ian

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Re: Overseas research question
« Reply #3 on: Friday 24 June 16 02:38 BST (UK) »
The only thing I know is his American name, and his name he used when immigrating aboard the SS Commonwealth into the US. His name used aboard the ship was "Emil Wiitala", born 18 June 1882 from Wasa/Vaasa/Vasa Finland. From what Ive uncovered, that name was fairly common. But I wonder what the odds of multiple people with that name being born on that date in that city/town? His name he used in the US was "Matt Emil Vitala." I have found lots of info in the US after 1902, but I know nothing prior to his immigration into the US.


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Re: Overseas research question
« Reply #4 on: Friday 24 June 16 08:29 BST (UK) »
You don't happen to have his parents' names do you.

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Re: Overseas research question
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 June 16 10:37 BST (UK) »
The only other name to go on at the moment is his uncle Isak Kainänen on the passenger list to Boston.

Ian



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Re: Overseas research question
« Reply #6 on: Friday 24 June 16 14:13 BST (UK) »
I think I maybe found them now. I think his mothers name was Hilda. You say his uncle was with him? I have seen several Emil Vitala/Wiitala on the same boat. What all info does the list you see have?

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 24 June 16 14:27 BST (UK) »
He was visiting his uncle. I will post the passenger list link shortly.

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 24 June 16 15:13 BST (UK) »
Here is the list: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hv5/

He was going to Ishpeming, Michigan.

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