Help needed LEWIS/JOHNSON

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wow you still up
Yes I have copies of death certs
Jean

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I have not been able to trace their Birth certs in either Scotland or Englandor on the 1901 census?

However I do know that when his son died in 1903 from his first marriage I assume he was on a minesweeper as a RNVR [I have a number] his son died at "Institution Larbert Naval Residence" and was registered by an attendant

Jean

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PS  as it's so late can we carry on tomorrow [later today]
many thanks so far
Jean

[PrueM]

This is my best attempt...eyes are all weird now 
The copy is shockingly bad, I hope they didn't charge you full price for it.
Here goes:


1919
on the Twenty Second day of August at 35a Union Street, Aberdeen.
By declaration in presence of John Gordon Mitchell 21 Northfield? Place, Aberdeen, and Mary Ann Sangster MS Corbie/Robbie?, 60 ..sstimant ? Avenue, Aberdeen

(Signed)
Edward Lewis, Trawl. Fisherman (widower)
(Signed)
Mary Miller (widow)

42
39

62 Crombie Road, Aberdeen
62 Crombie Road, Aberdeen

Henry Lewis, Barman (dec.)
Sarah Lewis, MS Warren (dec)

Charles? Edward Johnson, Trawl. Master
Mary Elizabeth Johnson, MS Wilson

Prue 

[kenjo]

Thanks darling Prue..

modified.......
This is the family in the 1881c,,,,(but I feel you have already seen this)

Henry LEWIS     Head     M     Male     28     Sedgeley, Stafford, England     Boot Riveter     
Sarah LEWIS     Wife     M     Female     25     Wolverhampton, Stafford, England          
Mary A. LEWIS     Daur          Female     7     Wolverhampton, Stafford, England     Scholar     
Lincrea LEWIS     Daur          Female     6     Wolverhampton, Stafford, England     Scholar     
 Edward LEWIS     Son          Male     4     Wolverhampton, Stafford, England            
Richard LEWIS     Son          Male     3     Wolverhampton, Stafford, England          
William H. LEWIS     Son          Male     1     Wolverhampton, Stafford, England          
William WORRALL     Boarder     W     Male     58     Wolverhampton, Stafford, England     Retired Grocer     
    Dwelling     5 Clifton St
    Census Place   Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
 
   I have the Marriage of Charles Edward Johnson to his 2nd wife, and he says his dad was Gustav Johnson and mother was Augusta Smith.................

I will now try and find indexes for the Lewis family.
kenjo

modified.

These are the most likely births of Edward Lewis......
   Lewis   Edward            Wolverhampton.6b   641   Birth   4   1877   
   Lewis   Edward            Wolverhampton.6b   599   Birth   1   1877   

This is the  marriage of Henry Lewis, to Sarah Worrall (so one of the mystries, are solved.)

Lewis   Henry            Wolverhampton.6b   729   Marriage   2   1872   
   

Worrall   Sarah            Wolverhampton.6b   729   Marriage   2   1872

regards
kenjo

modified....

If you go to this tread, I asked ,, on your behalf If anyone could find the Lewis's in the 1891c,
and, if this works you may be able to click into it......

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,75158.0.html



I have found Caroline Elizabeth Turff,
c......28/4/1862,
Holy Trinity,
Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire.
Father, Robert, and Mother Caroline..
Births Jun 1862 
TURFF    Caroline Elizabeth        Hull    9d   207
      
Marriages Sep 1854 
    
Dinsley    Caroline         Newington    1d   218      
Turff    Robert         Newington    1d   218      
This is Caroline elizabeths family in the 1861c, 1 yr befor she was born....
TURFF, Caroline   Wife   Married   F   28   Milliner   London   
TURFF, Robert N   Son      M   5   Scholar   London   
TURFF, William H   Son      M   3      Hull   
TURFF, Walter C   Son      M   0 (10M)      Hull   

    
Kingston Upon Hull   Address:8 , Walker Street   
   This is only a possible, 1881c, but is quite likely, correct...( so he was from Germany)
 Charles JOHNSON     Head     M     Male     19     Germany     Fisherman     
 Caroline JOHNSON     Wife     M     Female     19     London, London, Middlesex, England          

 
Source Information:
    Dwelling     3 Johns Square
    Census Place   Kingston-upon-Hull, York, England
    

Turff   Caroline            Hull.9d   297   Marriage   3   1878,
This Marriage of Caroline Turff, is not to Charles Johnson.
but it is possible that she becomes a widow shortly after marriage, and then marries Charles Johnson, or lives with him, by the 1881c.
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 Marriages Sep 1878,     she marries one of the following........
COATES    Thomas         Hull    9d   297    
TURFF    Caroline         Hull    9d   297    
Wilkinson    John         Hull    9d   297
regards
kenjo    

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Thank you so much some of this I have already looked at but you have so much more I now have a lot to sift through

Thanks too to Prue for deciphering a terrible copy

Jean
will no doubt be back with some questions for you

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Kenjo

Do you know where I can find out more regarding
"Cottage home,school & homes for children" from the Wolverhampton Workhouse??

Jean

[kenjo]

Hi softcoats,

This is the results of asking experts in the english side, re.....
Turffs in the 1861c and 1871c....
you have now got a lot more info, re Carolines mother.




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    Re: 1871c Turff.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 23 July 05 06:47 BST (UK) »   

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Hi Kenjo,

RG10/4787
Folio 60 p. 25
Holy Trinity, Yorkshire
(Registration District Hull)

Frances Dawley (?), head, wid, 64, b. Mddx London
Caroline Turff, dau, wid, 37, b. do.
Robert Turff, son of Caroline Turff, 15, Blacksmith's Assistant, b. do.
William Turff, son of Caroline Turff, 13, Errand Boy, b. Yorks Hull
Caroline G(?) Turff, dau of Caroline Turff, 9, scholar, b. do.

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    Re: 1871c Turff.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 23 July 05 13:38 BST (UK) »   

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Hi Kenjo

Here's the family in 1861 -

1861 census
Living at Myton, Holy Trinity, Kingston upon Hull, Yorkshire.

Frances Dinsley
b. abt 1804, London
Head, Widow, occ: formerly Laundress

Elizabeth Clerk
b. abt 1830, London
Niece, Married, occ: Dressmaker

Caroline Turff
b. abt 1833, London
Daughter, Married, occ:  Milliner.

Robert N Turff
b. abt 1856, London
Son, Scholar.

William H Turff
b. abt 1858, Hull
Son

Walter C Turff
b. abt 1860, Hull
Son

Frances' surname is difficult to read on both censuses - it's transcibed as Densley in the 1871 which looks wrong (Dawley looks more accurate), but in the 1861 it does look more like Dinsley. 
Monica