O'Toole Antrim B ABT. 1765 D ABT 1818

[Cai Thomas]

Hi everyone, help would be greatly appreciated in finding the following person

O'Toole from Antrim (information found in family records)

It is likely his first initial is J (as all his Sons and grandchildren were James or John)

We have traced the sons and we have hard proof of them living together etc, but no record of the mother and no record of the father other than the above.

There is no mention of the mother or father on any marriage certificates. We have tried to locate birth certificates but they do not exist (devonshire records and London records)

His sons are

James Frederick Toole
1796–1847
BIRTH 9 JAN 1796 • Aldgate, Middlesex, England St Botolph Without Aldgate
DEATH 31 JAN 1847 • 17 Devonshire Street, Bishopsgate, Southwark, London, Surrey, England
4th great-grandfather

John Toole
1801–1838
BIRTH 1801 • Devon, England, United Kingdom
DEATH 5TH MARCH 1838 • Devonshire Street St Botolph, Bishopsgate, London, Middlesex

We know the father is from County Antrim from century old family notes, but we have no further information.

[aghadowey]

Very few records will go far enough back to find someone who seems to have left Ireland before 1796 and without a more exact location than 'Antrim' and an exact name it will be almost impossible to confirm that any record you do find is the correct person.

[BallyaltikilliganG]

O’Toole and Toole are not well represented names in Co Antrim , so I wondered if they left any branch relatives behind as they migrated.  So I quickly put together the most likely Co Antrim civil parish areas to find either O’Toole or Toole using this system as most national records {meaning census substitutes} used civil parishes say before 1870.
Sources used
Griffiths valuation about 1860s = GV, see http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
Tithe-Applotments Books about 25-30 years earlier see the parish in http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com
Flaxgrowers of Ireland 1796 see http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/antrim.php
Ulster Hearth Rolls 1660s see http://www.billmacafee.com

Ballinderry-
Toole-William-Cluntirriff-Ballinderry-Antrim-GV-no tolans included--
Toole-Daniel-Tullyballydonell-Ballinderry-Antrim-GV----
1833  none in http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/antrim/tithe-applotments/ballinderry-parish.php#.V4ABWFeoc5Q----
Blaris
1796 none in Co Antrim flax growers http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/antrim.php------
---Blaris------
1834 none in http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/antrim/tithe-applotments/blaris-parish.php#.V4AFs1eoc5Q or in Blaris Co Down---
16560-172-Antrim-Massereene Upper-Blaris-Lisburn Parish & Town-Lisbourne Parish & Town-John-O Tewell-O'Toole
1660-Ulster hearth rolls see 16560 172 Antrim Massereene Upper Blaris Lisburn Parish & Town Lisbourne Parish & Town John O Tewell O'Toole---
Culfeightrin
1831 none in http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/antrim/tithe-applotments/culfeightrin-parish.php#.V4AHdFeoc5Q------
1740- protestants listTeale-Teale-Wid-Cary-Culfeightrin-sound unlikely
Duneane
Toole-Alice-Toome,Toome-Duneane-Antrim-GV----
Toole-Bernard-Toome,Toome-Duneane-Antrim-GV----
Toole-Francis-Toome,Toome-Duneane-Antrim-GV----
Toole-Margaret-Toome,Toome-Duneane-Antrim-GV----
1833 http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/antrim/tithe-applotments/duneane-parish.php#.V4ABsFeoc5Q-----
Toal, Bernd.-Townland: Toome Year: 1833-------
Glenavy
1796 none inCo Antrim flax growers http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/antrim.php------
O'Toole-Francis-Ballyvorally-Glenavy-Antrim-----
1826 none in http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/antrim/tithe-applotments/glenavy-parish.php#.V4ACAleoc5Q----
1796 none inCo Antrim flax growers http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/antrim.php------
Grange of Ballyscullion
Toole-Henry-Ardnaglass-Grange of Ballyscullion-Antrim-GV----
Toole-Henry-Culnafay-Grange of Ballyscullion-Antrim-GV----
Toole-Patrick-Culnafay-Grange of Ballyscullion-Antrim-GV----
Toole-William-Culnafay-Grange of Ballyscullion-Antrim-GV----
all empty recordsl in http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/antrim/tithe-applotments/grange-of-ballyscullion-parish.php#.V4ACb1eoc5Q---
1796 none inCo Antrim flax growers http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/antrim.php------
Lambeg
Toole-Michael-Lambeg North-Lambeg-Antrim-GV----
only one townland recorded in http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/antrim/tithe-applotments/lambeg-parish.php#.V4ACsVeoc5Q---
1796 none inCo Antrim flax growers http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/antrim.php------
Magheragall
O'Toole-Patrick-Ballycarrickmaddy-Magheragall-Antrim-GV----
1827 none in http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/antrim/tithe-applotments/magheragall-parish.php#.V4AC8leoc5Q----
Shankill ie Belfast area  divided by area
1796 none inCo Antrim flax growers http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/antrim.php------
Toole-Bernard-Dock Townparks Barrack Lane-Shankill-Antrim-GV----
Toole-Bernard-Dock Townparks Barrack Lane-Shankill-Antrim-GV----
1826 none in http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/antrim/tithe-applotments/shankill-parish.php#.V4ADLVeoc5Q----
1796 none inCo Antrim flax growers http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/antrim.php------
Toole-James-Dunmurry-Shankill-Antrim-GV----
Toole-James-Dunmurry-Shankill-Antrim-GV----
1826 none in http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/antrim/tithe-applotments/shankill-parish.php#.V4ADLVeoc5Q----
1796 none inCo Antrim flax growers http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/antrim.php------
Toole-Patrick-Legoniel,Legoniel-Shankill-Antrim-GV----
Toole-Patrick-Legoniel,Legoniel-Shankill-Antrim-GV----
1826 none in http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/antrim/tithe-applotments/shankill-parish.php#.V4ADLVeoc5Q----
1796 none inCo Antrim flax growers http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/antrim.php------

1819 Having the early success of Blaris , ,which includes Lisburn ,  I looked one step further, The Belfast Directory for 1819 includes a Lisburn section and an entry see http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/1819_Lisburn.htm
Tool, Patrick, labourer, Antrim Lane

Early Emmigrant /Passsenger listslists are not my speciality, http://www.dippam.ac.uk/ied/records/21435 eg Convicts and Vagabonds for transportation exist  eg Charles Toole from Co Carlow is listed in 1740 and 1742

https://www.johngrenham.com/findasurname.php?surname=o%27toole suggests Toole is quite numerous in Dublin and Belfast.
So the above will illustrate to you the difficulties your search will encounter

[Cai Thomas]

Hi All,

Sorry for the delay in replying, we moved house and things have only just settled down.

So I have had a hint, which suggests a Baptism of 19 Mar 1797 - Armagh, Ireland

Residence of Killmady.

Though they have the DOB as 1797 not 1796

Parents of John Toole and Mary Fearny

Thank you @BallyaltikilliganG for all of the work above you did. It really if a very difficult line. We have 2 professors helping working on this line due to the parentage and links of J L Toole the Famous actor and the father J F Toole the famous Toastmaster.