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AMBROSE DOLPHIN - where did he go?
« on: Saturday 30 July 16 19:03 BST (UK) »
With an unusual name such as Ambrose Dolphin, I thought he'd be easy to trace!

One of my ancestor's sisters was Catherine McWeeny (born about 1829 in Ireland) - she married a man by the surname Dolphin - she is living in Bradford in 1851 and 1861 with this surname, and a son (presumabley fathered by the man she married) called Ambrose Dophin (born about 1847 in Bradford - the 1861 census gives incorrect date and location for his birth if anyone looks for this particular census).

I was told by members on rootschat that Catherine McWeeny had married a Ambrose Dolphin in Bradford in 1846 (although I haven't found the record myself yet). This would mean that the child Ambrose was named after his father.
Despite this, I can't find any trace of the Ambrose Dolphin that Catherine McWeeny apparently married - in the two censuses that I have found Catherine Dolphin (nee McWeeny) on, she has been married but living with her son and parents (Andrew and Ellen McWeeny), with no trace of her husband.

I'm wondering just where Ambrose could be - I have been unable to find anything out about him - and the marriage between him and Catherine is based on what other members have informed me of.
I'm hoping someone will be able to shed some light on this, as it's been a bit of a mystery to me.

Many thanks for any help and advice,
Holly
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Re: AMBROSE DOLPHIN - where did he go?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 30 July 16 19:09 BST (UK) »
Hello Holly,

The marriage is in the indexes  on Free BMD https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

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Re: AMBROSE DOLPHIN - where did he go?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 30 July 16 19:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Holly

FreeBMD shows a marriage in Bradford Mar Q 1846, 23 216
On same page Ambrose Dolphin and Catherine McWeeny
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
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Re: AMBROSE DOLPHIN - where did he go?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 30 July 16 19:15 BST (UK) »
Thank you Jool and Heywood, at least that's concrete now  :)
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Re: AMBROSE DOLPHIN - where did he go?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 30 July 16 19:46 BST (UK) »
Possible

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5C3-7TJ

Attested age 18, 26 June 1840
Border Regiment - 34th & 55th Foot, Rank Sargeant, discharge ?
Discharge corps 34th Reg Of Foot
Birth parish H? Birth town Long? Galway

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Re: AMBROSE DOLPHIN - where did he go?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 30 July 16 20:12 BST (UK) »
Ambrose Dolphin
Service number   3459
Rank   Sergeant
Unit or regiment   34th Foot (Cumberland)
Clasp   Lucknow
Notes   Enlisted 06 December 1853 at Preston aged 31. b. County Galway. Discharged 14 June 1862
Indian Mutiny Medal Roll 1857-1859
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Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
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Re: AMBROSE DOLPHIN - where did he go?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 30 July 16 20:16 BST (UK) »
Thank you Cas, I'm just looking at the Army Service record now - it's a bit difficult to read but I can make out what you've transcribed.
Could certainly explain why I couldn't find him on censuses!
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Re: AMBROSE DOLPHIN - where did he go?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 30 July 16 20:19 BST (UK) »
Maybe connection after initial enlistment

Ambrose Dolphin
Service number   1577
Rank   Private
Unit or regiment   70th Foot
Date   24/06/1841
Event type   From Depot
Location   West Indies & La Prairie, Canada
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Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
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Re: AMBROSE DOLPHIN - where did he go?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 30 July 16 20:26 BST (UK) »
Ambrose Dolphin
Service number   3459
Rank   Sergeant
Unit or Regiment   34th Foot (Cumberland)
Regiment stationed at   Fyzabad East Indies
Year   1861
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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland